Christmas Eve excessive hours problem

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Wally, Dec 25, 2013.

  1. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Can the union do anything to stop in the future what happened this year? Drivers way over dispatched, 12 hour day. I never seen it this bad, ever.

    I know we have to work but historically, we worked a 8 hour day on Christmas Eve.
     
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  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Are you asking the union to basically tell UPS how to run their company?
     
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  3. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Do what? My sympathies but Xmas eve is not a holiday. We're in the package delivery business and this has been our busy time of the year since the beginning. Poor planning along with bad weather doesn't change the fact of what we do.
     
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  4. Ouch

    Ouch Well-Known Member

    Hey Wally it sucked here to. Talked to a couple buddies yesterday that said they were heavier yesterday than on peak day. Way understaffed, missed the projection by a mile. I dont know of anything the union could do if UPS played by the rules. I looked and cant find a contract violation at least out of my building, other than sups working.
     
  5. Johney

    Johney Raise your hand if you think Upstate is a D-Bag

    Left my sister-in-laws with the family last night at 10:30 and passed a package car still 30 minutes from the building. At least it looked like he was heading back. Paid holiday or not that is wrong.
     
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  6. bumped

    bumped Well-Known Member


    UPS has us designate closed businesses as closed holiday. So, it is a holiday.
     
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  7. Spicybrother

    Spicybrother Member

    Well Wally, I know it's tough. You guys are the "horsepower" of the company. I don't have an answer but my hat is off to you all. I don't know what this company would do without as well trained and hard working guys as package car drivers. I once was but now am a fat ass feeder driver :D. I run down the road with a bunch of former package car drivers and we often look at the younger guys and say those guys are the heart of this company. Cheers! Merry Christmas! Count that big ole wad of money you made and I hope they plan better next year.
     
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  8. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    I think Christmas Eve only, should be triple time after 8 hours. May fix some issues!
     
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  9. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Yep! Another abuse the union should shut down. This was never a problem until the last couple of years. I never complain about working late, never, but when you miss being with the family because you get home at 10:30 on Christmas Eve, I'm sorry, but that's over the line.
     
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  10. Squint

    Squint No more work for me!

    Historically, UPS has been good about getting people off the road on Christmas Eve. Always had a buffet spread for us with all the fixings. What the hell happened to this company? I've not driven since 2003 and been retired for almost three years but I've never heard anything like the stories I'm reading now. Once while I was driving on Christmas Eve I was the last one in the building and that was at 4 pm. I understand all about the weather but we had our snowstorms then too.

    I.E. is notorious for loading up the drivers but it seems they really dropped the ball on this one.
     
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  11. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    UPS policy for undeliverable packages does not make it a holiday. In the public's eye it is but in the real world it is not.
     
  12. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    No....

    Not with the current contract language.

    The 70% of members.... that didn't vote on the contract.... probably think so.

    The IBT isn't going to try and negotiate language, that would prevent the company from

    making money during peak season. Thats why you make the "big" bucks.

    DOT limits your hours. That's the way it is.


    If more members participated in the Union.... things could be different.



    -Bug-
     
  13. 104Feeder

    104Feeder Phoenix Feeder

    They were still delivering to my house after 8 pm last night.
     
  14. some1else

    some1else Active Member

    I was out until 1030. I dont mind but i really think alot of these OT problems would be solved if
    0-8hrs is 1x
    8-9.5 is 1.5x
    And 9.5-12 is 3x
    And 12-over is 5x

    If that was in a contract might be the first one id ever vote yes on
     
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  15. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Active Member

    This is my 14th Xmas and every year we talk about how it gets worst. You would think after a few xmas's, they would figure it out. At my center, one of the biggest problems is, that it's the physical flunkies who are supervisors now.
     
  16. 1pocket73

    1pocket73 Member

    I had 375 stops.Luckily one of our drivers was light and done by 1pm,enabling him to take 100 off me over 3 meet points.Late air created extra meet points in the afternoon,causing me to drive throughout my area a second time.Helper(female) needed a bathroom break twice,so I had to break off for them.Had a tote full of air shoved at me in the morning that wasn't even mine,causing me to be even more inefficient.The first air pu meet point was the wrong location and had to double back in traffic to get to the right place,which proved to be worthless anyway because all of my stuff was at the nose of the truck! "Sorry,we'll have to meet later man!".....Complete waste of 25 minutes.
    Did I mention what a nightmare my load was too??At least I got to spend a few hours with my family after that chaos!Fun times.......

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  17. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    If you don't like cardboard boxes... don't work for UPS

    If you don't like working long hours through christmas... don't work for UPS

    it's just common sense!
     
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  18. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Active Member

    The company is under contract.
     
  19. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    To deliver cardboard?
     
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  20. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Neither FedEx or UPS delivered to my house after Friday 12/20.
    I have things in my cart at Amazon for a week now.
    I held off to keep from adding to the problems.

    If you were getting packages yesterday, you were part of the problem! :wink-very:
     
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