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<blockquote data-quote="Iconoclast" data-source="post: 176053" data-attributes="member: 8906"><p>Tie,</p><p> </p><p>I don't know if you realize what a statement you are making with regard to UPS ability to defend itself, or not defend itself, as you have alluded to.</p><p> </p><p>Companies the size and scope of UPS are absolutely surrounded by legal counsel. Very good legal counsel mind you. They are besieged daily with lawsuits and claims, just like any other large organization, and they will defend themselves to the very last when they feel they have been infringed upon or can prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. UPS does not settle class action lawsuits filed against them simply because a suit was filed - any more than employees file huge class action without cause or reason.</p><p> </p><p>There were legitimate claims in these actions, that is why UPS settled. Bet your bottom dollar that those law firms who count UPS as their only client, and I am sure there are several, are paid a handsome retainer to defend UPS. That retainer is all inclusive and these firms are on the hook to work very long and hard - to diligently defend against lass action lawsuits and all others.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Often, settlements are achieved because they are much less expensive than going to trial, especially, if the evidence is so overwhelmingly against you that it could cost you tenfold of what it would if you were to settle. Again, make no mistake, settlements are never given in large cases like this when a company like UPS feels they can win the suit. They pay millions to their legal counsel for this very reason and they are going to demand that their attorneys defend their turf aggressively.</p><p> </p><p>You seem to completely disregard UPS ability to defend itself, and you make it sound like the people that filed this suit were getting over on UPS and didn't have a legitimate claim.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>If the legal premise of this case boiled down to employees who simply did not have the temerity to take their lunch there would not be a case. period. If you are intimating that the real premise behind the case was people not taking their lunch, but those that filed the suit concocted a legal defense that was was all smoke and mirrors, then what does that say about UPS?</p><p> </p><p>Simply put, UPS does not let people use the court system to steal money from them. This was very much about the tactics that UPS uses, and has used for a long time, to abuse some of the rights of their employees, and a legitamite lawsuit that exposed those tatics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iconoclast, post: 176053, member: 8906"] Tie, I don't know if you realize what a statement you are making with regard to UPS ability to defend itself, or not defend itself, as you have alluded to. Companies the size and scope of UPS are absolutely surrounded by legal counsel. Very good legal counsel mind you. They are besieged daily with lawsuits and claims, just like any other large organization, and they will defend themselves to the very last when they feel they have been infringed upon or can prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. UPS does not settle class action lawsuits filed against them simply because a suit was filed - any more than employees file huge class action without cause or reason. There were legitimate claims in these actions, that is why UPS settled. Bet your bottom dollar that those law firms who count UPS as their only client, and I am sure there are several, are paid a handsome retainer to defend UPS. That retainer is all inclusive and these firms are on the hook to work very long and hard - to diligently defend against lass action lawsuits and all others. Often, settlements are achieved because they are much less expensive than going to trial, especially, if the evidence is so overwhelmingly against you that it could cost you tenfold of what it would if you were to settle. Again, make no mistake, settlements are never given in large cases like this when a company like UPS feels they can win the suit. They pay millions to their legal counsel for this very reason and they are going to demand that their attorneys defend their turf aggressively. You seem to completely disregard UPS ability to defend itself, and you make it sound like the people that filed this suit were getting over on UPS and didn't have a legitimate claim. If the legal premise of this case boiled down to employees who simply did not have the temerity to take their lunch there would not be a case. period. If you are intimating that the real premise behind the case was people not taking their lunch, but those that filed the suit concocted a legal defense that was was all smoke and mirrors, then what does that say about UPS? Simply put, UPS does not let people use the court system to steal money from them. This was very much about the tactics that UPS uses, and has used for a long time, to abuse some of the rights of their employees, and a legitamite lawsuit that exposed those tatics. [/QUOTE]
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