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<blockquote data-quote="Iconoclast" data-source="post: 179088" data-attributes="member: 8906"><p><span style="color: blue">DS if every driver who was shorted an hour filed a grievance as they are supposed to then there would be no lawsuit. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">Again- How do you know what was filed and what wasn't. Do you believe that people are coerced not to file? Do you think that the coercion was a key point in this case? </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: black">The chicken comes before the egg here Tie-the grievance process is set up to help in cases where rules are being broken. You seem to blatantly disregard the fact that UPS management broke the rules FIRST and you hinge your argument on blaming someone for not grieving something AFTER -AGAIN, AFTER, they have been wronged - Do you see the duplicity in that TIE????</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: blue"></span></p><p> <span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue">In this case a handfull of drivers intitated a class action and drew everyone else in the state of california into the case. The very least that should be required of those drivers who were dragged into the case should have been them physically enrolling in the class action and their physically listing the number of lunchs if any they were shorted. </span></p><p> <span style="color: blue"></span></p><p> <span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: black">That is not how the legal system works. The legal system allows for class actions because it groups people into a segment whose rights have been violated, THAT IS THE COMMON THREAD HERE, WHOSE RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED, not because you live in a specific state. </span></span></p><p> <span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: black">Why do the courts do this? </span></span></p><p> <span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: black">Beause the law does </span><span style="color: black">not want you to file for every lunch that you were violated on, that is exactly why they have class action-so individuals will not file lawsuits for every single incident regarding - misaligned cell phone bills, lunch break violations, consumer product failures, etc etc etc. </span></span></p><p> <span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: black">The attorneys look at the issue, make reasonable assumptions about its breadth and scope, measure their opposition and their legal viewpoint and file their cases according to the parameters of class action. Recepients of class action awards are governed by similar large sweeping parameters, not whether or not someone deserves to be paid for 2500 missed lunches. </span></span></p><p> <span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue">Again I'm not arguing the results of the lawsuit I am arguing the process.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">You did argue the results of the lawsuit, while you take some umbrage with the state of California, and how unfair it is that so many benefit from this, most of your contributions to this thread are very judgmental with respect to the results of the lawsuit and the people favored by those results.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Tieguy resonse to daddaj -my , my such a harsh response from someone who joined a "i'm too stupid to take my lunch" lawsuit and got rewarded with money he did not earn or deserve in any way. The next thing you and the other california thieves will tell me is that you have integrity. ROFLMAO - </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">you reference the fact that he joined the lawsuit above, but you have nothing to say about the process of joining - You do however, have a problem with the result of the lawsuit, telling daddaj that he </span><span style="color: blue">"didn't deserve the money or earn it in any way" </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">You had similar comments for Helen and others, all the while, seemingly OK with the process of how they were selected to benefit from the largess of the suit. If it was actually the legal process that defines class action that you have a problem with -why call people thieves and question their integrity??</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iconoclast, post: 179088, member: 8906"] [COLOR=blue]DS if every driver who was shorted an hour filed a grievance as they are supposed to then there would be no lawsuit. [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Again- How do you know what was filed and what wasn't. Do you believe that people are coerced not to file? Do you think that the coercion was a key point in this case? [/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][COLOR=black]The chicken comes before the egg here Tie-the grievance process is set up to help in cases where rules are being broken. You seem to blatantly disregard the fact that UPS management broke the rules FIRST and you hinge your argument on blaming someone for not grieving something AFTER -AGAIN, AFTER, they have been wronged - Do you see the duplicity in that TIE????[/COLOR] In this case a handfull of drivers intitated a class action and drew everyone else in the state of california into the case. The very least that should be required of those drivers who were dragged into the case should have been them physically enrolling in the class action and their physically listing the number of lunchs if any they were shorted. [COLOR=black]That is not how the legal system works. The legal system allows for class actions because it groups people into a segment whose rights have been violated, THAT IS THE COMMON THREAD HERE, WHOSE RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED, not because you live in a specific state. [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Why do the courts do this? [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Beause the law does [/COLOR][COLOR=black]not want you to file for every lunch that you were violated on, that is exactly why they have class action-so individuals will not file lawsuits for every single incident regarding - misaligned cell phone bills, lunch break violations, consumer product failures, etc etc etc. [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]The attorneys look at the issue, make reasonable assumptions about its breadth and scope, measure their opposition and their legal viewpoint and file their cases according to the parameters of class action. Recepients of class action awards are governed by similar large sweeping parameters, not whether or not someone deserves to be paid for 2500 missed lunches. [/COLOR] Again I'm not arguing the results of the lawsuit I am arguing the process.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]You did argue the results of the lawsuit, while you take some umbrage with the state of California, and how unfair it is that so many benefit from this, most of your contributions to this thread are very judgmental with respect to the results of the lawsuit and the people favored by those results.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Tieguy resonse to daddaj -my , my such a harsh response from someone who joined a "i'm too stupid to take my lunch" lawsuit and got rewarded with money he did not earn or deserve in any way. The next thing you and the other california thieves will tell me is that you have integrity. ROFLMAO - [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]you reference the fact that he joined the lawsuit above, but you have nothing to say about the process of joining - You do however, have a problem with the result of the lawsuit, telling daddaj that he [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]"didn't deserve the money or earn it in any way" [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]You had similar comments for Helen and others, all the while, seemingly OK with the process of how they were selected to benefit from the largess of the suit. If it was actually the legal process that defines class action that you have a problem with -why call people thieves and question their integrity??[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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