Next time they leave you a love note........return the favor and leave him a LOVE grievance
Coming in over-allowed
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'Lord Brown's bidding'
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What's the "A" mean on the report?
L = late....I think A= means your next to get fired
OVERBOARD
Don't believe everything you think
I dont mind the notes, Its better than having to listen to him bitch about it to me. Plus the paper you can save and show other drivers, its like receiving a award.
Buck Fifty
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Been watching my over allowed steadily go up. I'm about an hour over on average. I hope to be 2 hrs over by nxt year. I'm really excited about what a crappy driver ive become over the last 20 yrs. It makes it more enjoyable the more they tell me. He's blowing smoke . The idea is to blow it right back up his ass and see how he likes washing those nicotine stains off.
kingOFchester
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OP stated that on one of the routes he covers there is a 17:00 pickup and is on the way back to the building at 16:45, but yet still comes in over. There is nothing you can do. If you do the pickup early, then you will show up on another report.
The system is designed so that no matter what you do, you will inevitably be doing something wrong. You fix one thing, and you will end up on some other report.
If you run a trip at the up most efficiency, getting a lot of airs off with grounds and lowering the miles below the EDD plan, you are setting yourself up to be even more over allowed. Run the route as close to 100% as you can. Don't go all crazy with grounds during your airs.....don't close out a pick up so you can finish a neighborhood before making pickup........don't worry about having to make more deliveries after pickups, and you may find that their plan will be closer, again CLOSER, to getting you to scratch.
Again, it is set up so that you are failing somewhere no matter what you do. Kind of reminds me of Nicky Santoro from Casino:
- Best of all, for the first time in my life... I figured out a way not to lose.
- [Ace] Yeah, he had a foolproof scheme, all right. It wasn't very scientific, but it worked. When he won, he collected; when he lost, he told the bookies to go friend' themselveS. What were they gonna do, muscle Nicky?
- Hey, how you doin'?
- How you doin'? You got that thing for me?
- What thing? Oh, Nicky. I thought you was layin'.
- No, no, I'm takin'. I was takin'.
- You sure?
- I'm positive.
- I'm a little confused.
- You're a little confused? Maybe if I stick your friend'IN face through this window... you'll get unconfused. Gimme the friend'in money.
- I'm sorry, Nick. didn't mean anything by it.
- That's why you had it ready. You thought I was friend'in layin' it?
- My friend'in head.
- Smarten up.
The system is designed so that no matter what you do, you will inevitably be doing something wrong. You fix one thing, and you will end up on some other report.
If you run a trip at the up most efficiency, getting a lot of airs off with grounds and lowering the miles below the EDD plan, you are setting yourself up to be even more over allowed. Run the route as close to 100% as you can. Don't go all crazy with grounds during your airs.....don't close out a pick up so you can finish a neighborhood before making pickup........don't worry about having to make more deliveries after pickups, and you may find that their plan will be closer, again CLOSER, to getting you to scratch.
Again, it is set up so that you are failing somewhere no matter what you do. Kind of reminds me of Nicky Santoro from Casino:
- Best of all, for the first time in my life... I figured out a way not to lose.
- [Ace] Yeah, he had a foolproof scheme, all right. It wasn't very scientific, but it worked. When he won, he collected; when he lost, he told the bookies to go friend' themselveS. What were they gonna do, muscle Nicky?
- Hey, how you doin'?
- How you doin'? You got that thing for me?
- What thing? Oh, Nicky. I thought you was layin'.
- No, no, I'm takin'. I was takin'.
- You sure?
- I'm positive.
- I'm a little confused.
- You're a little confused? Maybe if I stick your friend'IN face through this window... you'll get unconfused. Gimme the friend'in money.
- I'm sorry, Nick. didn't mean anything by it.
- That's why you had it ready. You thought I was friend'in layin' it?
- My friend'in head.
- Smarten up.
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Are you seriously saying that the more efficient you are the more overallowed you will be?
Bubblehead
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I believe that is what he's saying, for routes with allowance inequities.
Try to remove yourself from your "bubble" when you read threads like these.
Indecisi0n
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You can always check in your Diad to see if you are being OJSed that same day. Go into time sheet/ verify and there is an OJS line. Blank = no OJS if there is numbers = OJS
'Lord Brown's bidding'
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Personally I don't see the point in grieving OJSs. They have every right to watch how I work, as many times as they want. And if they can spot a method that needs improving, well, I don't WANT to be out until 8:30 every night (although the check sure is nice), and am open to suggestion.
After who knows how many virtual OJs' I have received, I finally had an actual ride on Thursday. i feel it went quite well. He praised mybuse ofbthe methods and depth of knowledge, as well as in-car routine. Also had some constructive criticism on my scanning packages in the car or on my seat, and scanning packages at dock stops one at a time or, again, in the car, to which I enthisiastically expressed my thanks. Nonetheless, my route rose to the occasion, and I still managed to come in 85 units over and punch out at 8:43, despite only taking half a lunch. This with 130 stops/338 pcs/19 pu's/ 368 pcs, and 89 miles.
After who knows how many virtual OJs' I have received, I finally had an actual ride on Thursday. i feel it went quite well. He praised mybuse ofbthe methods and depth of knowledge, as well as in-car routine. Also had some constructive criticism on my scanning packages in the car or on my seat, and scanning packages at dock stops one at a time or, again, in the car, to which I enthisiastically expressed my thanks. Nonetheless, my route rose to the occasion, and I still managed to come in 85 units over and punch out at 8:43, despite only taking half a lunch. This with 130 stops/338 pcs/19 pu's/ 368 pcs, and 89 miles.
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728ups
All Trash No Trailer
In loop my if one runs ones route 100% in trace that individual will be very Overallowed
728ups
All Trash No Trailer
why did you only take half of your lunch?
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
If his efficiency causes him to run considerably fewer miles than normal, then yes. I have seen that many times, drivers who bust their ass to get all their deliveries done before pickups so that they dont have to break trace or go back out to their delivery area in the evening for their last 10 stops. They wind up with less miles and show as an underload on the WOR.
rocket man
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make sure your on the clock every time they write you up allways grieve it and enjoy the quaility time with your supervisor while your adding more time on your check for going over
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
It's really kind of funny they ride all the hard workers hoping to get them to push even more. What they end up doing is pushing most to the point that they say friend it and start to slow down. Realizing their best is never good enough and they can't handle that break neck pace for 30+ years.
I'm reasonably sure the time allowances are getting doctored up to eliminate the bonus centers. Over here the centers have a lot of good and efficient drivers. Over 60% bonused regularly. Nothing like dropping a deuce at your house while getting paid to do it. But as EDD came through and now as ORION is getting implemented, the bonuses are as if by magic...disappearing.
kingOFchester
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I use to be a silent supporter of Superdave. I felt that he was being unfairly treated by some posters on BC. However, the longer I am here, and the more posts I read from this poster, the more I understand why he gets the treatment he receives.
Yes, I am serious. I didn't have the time, or even thought that I needed to go into more detail then I did. So, to be clear and to explain myself to Superdave I will try to be more clear.
Driver 1 goes out with a planned 150 stops and 250 pieces are trip 12A. He runs his airs and maybe a few bulk grounds then starts the trip. He goes back to some of the Air stops with the grounds. He breaks off at certain times to be at pickups at the commit times. Goes back to his deliveries and then finishes up at 123 Bubble World for the last pickup at 16:45 and returns to the building at 17:30. His dispatch shows 155 stops (do to delivering airs separate from grounds) and 100 miles do to going down streets to deliver grounds when he was on the street earlier delivering airs. Extra miles for breaking off to hit a few pickups in the "window". Planned day comes to a 8.70 .20 clicks under.
Driver 2 goes out with a planned 150 stops and 250 pieces are trip 12A. He runs his airs and all grounds with the airs. He even gets some streets done with the airs so he doesn't have to go back to that street later in the day. He closes out pickups in the window but does not breaks off, but rather waits till he is in that section to make the pickup. He then finishes up at 123 Bubble World for the last pickup at 16:45 and returns to the building at 17:30. His dispatch shows 145 stops (do to delivering airs and grounds together) and 95 miles do to not having to go back to stops he delivered airs to. Does not need to go down some streets a second time to deliver grounds to other stops as they were delivered when he passed them doing airs. Saves more miles by cheating the pickup window by closing them out and picking them up later when he is in that area. Planned day comes to a 8.30 .20 clicks over.
Same number of packages, same number of delivery points. Left and return to building the same. But the more efficient way will make you look worse then the less efficient way.
Of course this is not true in every situation. Is that clear enough Superdave?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Inefficient----overallowed.
Efficient---scratch or underallowed.
It is really that simple.
Efficient---scratch or underallowed.
It is really that simple.
kingOFchester
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UpDick said:
Updick----A'hole
It is really that simple.
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