Concealed carry

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Soserius, Aug 23, 2016.

  1. Soserius

    Soserius New Member

    I know we are not allowed to have concealed weapons on company property, but a coworker from a different terminal had brought up a good point. At the gates before you enter most terminals it reads "no illegal firearms beyond this point". And at most terminals before you enter the building it reads " no firearms beyond this point". Well, we haul firearms and ammo so I think that's why it says "no illegal firearms". Well, my firearm is not illegal. It is registered and i possess a license to carry it. I know we aren't allowed to carry in federal buildings and that also includes federal vehicle.I just don't think it's fair to not be able to protect ourselves, especially when we haul firearms and raw drugs for hospitals. We are a target, like many of us, are on the road 6 days a week in multiple states. We should be able to protect ourselves, not just on our day off. People say it's not worth getting fired for, but are they saying that if they had to pull out a weapon in self defense, that they would rather have there job and not there life? Although I follow the rules, I still know that I would rather be alive and defending myself in court, rather than keeping my job and being dead.
     
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  2. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Good luck in your job hunt.
     
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Keep the gun in your personal vehicle.
     
  4. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    That may not be good enough if it is UPS property and subject to search.
     
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Probable cause?
     
  6. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    I always carried a weapon when I went to the Bay area of California in feeders, especially in Oakland . Going to the airport there at night I did not stop at the red lights. Just slowed , looked both ways fast and kept it rolling.

    They just did not know I carried. Nothing bad ever happened ( a few close calls ) so never became an issue. Probably would have been fired maybe but would still be alive.
     
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  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    "Janie Got A Gun"
     
  8. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Do they need it on their property?
     
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I would think (hope) so.
     
  10. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Probable cause is for government entities.
     
  11. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    I was told by someone in Hr that the company lost a multimillion dollar lawsuit in federal court when they fired a feeder driver for having a rifle lawfully displayed in the rear window of his pickup truck in the company parking lot.
     
  12. Orion inc.

    Orion inc. I like turtles

    This is the biggest lie you've told yet. There is no way you carried a gun on a ups feeder and still had a job.
     
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    ...let alone rolled through red lights in Oakland....although I don't blame her one bit for doing so...
     
  14. burrheadd

    burrheadd Superstar

    What would @BrownCubster say about this?
     
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  15. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    You need the kinda job where you work for yourself. Then you can call all the shots. It sounds like you have delivery experience so you could start your own delivery company.
     
  16. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    Bad advice. It's not allowed on ups property. This means the parking my lot. If you don't believe me tell your manager you keep one in your car and you will be terminated.
     
  17. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    You have a valid point.

    The company should take notice of your concern.



    UPS cannot "search" employee vehicles.

    They aren't law enforcement.


    Maybe you let them ?

    After all.... you were fired for drug use.


    Druggies don't make the best decisions.



    I "almost" find this plausible.

    In Oakland.... after the riots....


    olroadbeech, has some good stories.

    Validation.... is the key. :biggrin:



    -Bug-
     
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  18. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Not sure if they need law enforcement if it is their own property. If the suspect an employee has stolen property from them, so you think law enforcement is called before or after they search said vehicle?
     
  19. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    If you carried a gun all it would take would be one hater employee to call you out and it would be an instant termination.

    Every one used to say that you never stopped for red lights downtown Chicago. I imagine it was the same in the bad parts of California
     
  20. Do like what one of driver does. Park on the street, you are not on their property.