confederate flag?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by rod, Jun 23, 2015.

  1. rod

    rod retired and happy

    So what do all you southerners think about the big push to ban the flag?
     
  2. Operational needs

    Operational needs Well-Known Member

    They should have banned it long ago for use by state governments. Seeing the flag makes me very uncomfortable, but I don't think it should be banned for everyone. If an idiot wants to fly it in his yard, he should be able to.
     
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  3. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Guest

    Knee jerk over reaction to a terrible tragedy. What else is new.
     
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  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber brown bomber

    looks like an investment opportunity
     
  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Why does it make you uncomfortable?

    The civil war had very little to do with slavery.
     
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  6. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Guest

    I wouldn't say very little, but it was more over strong state rights as opposed to strong federal government.
     
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  7. Operational needs

    Operational needs Well-Known Member

    Because contrary to what most rednecks proclaim, the confederate flag is more of an in-your-face gesture against Black people. Most of the ones who proudly fly it are very prejudiced. That's my opinion from what I've seen.
     
  8. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    The winner of any war gets to dictate how history sees the war. The north took full advantage of that.
     
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  9. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    It was very much about states rights. Before then there was serious debate about whether states had the legal right to secede from the Union. The reason Lincoln started the war was to preserve the Union. Slavery was an issue but not the primary one and didn't become more important until later.
     
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  10. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    We need to ban banning things.
     
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  11. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I think there's a ton of southerners (myself included) that see it as a symbol of southern pride. Nothing more.


    I don't fly it simply because of how I'm affraid other's would view it. Your opinion in a very popular one.
     
  12. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Like it or not, the Confederacy is a defeated enemy of the United States of America. In that light, states flying the Confederate flag seems highly unsavory. Also, whether the Civil War had much or little to do with slavery, the treatment of blacks after the war proved how entrenched slavery was and how the Confederacy resented black sovereignty. That remained for decades and, fair or not, is woven into the flag for many Americans.
     
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  13. Operational needs

    Operational needs Well-Known Member

    Definitely way too much banning going on anymore. People are WAY too sensitive about stupid stuff.
     
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    There are some who say it still exists today.
     
  15. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Never gonna happen. Banning is fun.
     
  16. Operational needs

    Operational needs Well-Known Member

    What exists?
     
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Banning is much easier than working toward resolving the underlying issues.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The mentality which brought about the flag in the first place.
     
  19. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

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  20. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    States rights?