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<blockquote data-quote="Dracula" data-source="post: 1114398" data-attributes="member: 42691"><p>Man, for someone with a cush union job, you sound like you need a vacation. </p><p></p><p>Just because something is on the internet doesn't mean I don't want a written copy to carry around with me. Carrying around a laptop in my tractor tends to raise eyebrows. So last year, I spent $8 on a STAA handbook. Seems to me, that is more along the lines of capitalism, not communism. By the way, where on the Teamsters website is that book? I couldn't seem to find it. </p><p></p><p>So yeah, I guess your right, I paid $8 in TDU dues last year. Boy, that Ken P is getting rich off me.</p><p></p><p>Sorry, but I pay the union, not trust them. Ever since Hoffa has been our President, UPS has done whatever the hell they want. You want the truth from a driver perspective? OK, the truth is this: our contracts have been good as far as wages goes. That is truth. But where we have taken huge, huge hits, is in contract enforcement. The union has been AWOL in that department. Remember the cardinal sin clause Carey and hall got in the '97 contract? Yeah, where did that go? Remember how electronic equipment wasn't supposed to be used against us? Yeah, what happened to that? And ask ANY UPSer about going to a multi-state panel with your job on the line. Go ahead, ask. Where I'm at, the two-state panel is known as the place where our jobs go to die. Why? Because the people on our side vote against our members. What sort of union lets that happen Stink219? Huh? I'm asking you. There is something terribly wrong with our union when it's own, supposedly, people vote against us in favor of UPS. It makes you wonder, what sort of motivation do those union panel members have to vote against the rank and file? Something under the table, maybe? Maybe you could help me and everyone else who have long wondered that.</p><p></p><p>The average UPS driver makes about $75 to $80 grand a year. You make $50 grand a year more than that. Your BA, you say makes another $15 grand above that. I say when good union members are losing their jobs at panels because union officials are voting against them, that you guys are making too damn much money. What use are you to us? When we need you guys the most, and you guys tell us "it's gonna be alright", and we lose our jobs, do you think you deserve that money? I say hell no. If you guys stood firm at those panels, then I would say you earn every penny. But that's not the case, is it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dracula, post: 1114398, member: 42691"] Man, for someone with a cush union job, you sound like you need a vacation. Just because something is on the internet doesn't mean I don't want a written copy to carry around with me. Carrying around a laptop in my tractor tends to raise eyebrows. So last year, I spent $8 on a STAA handbook. Seems to me, that is more along the lines of capitalism, not communism. By the way, where on the Teamsters website is that book? I couldn't seem to find it. So yeah, I guess your right, I paid $8 in TDU dues last year. Boy, that Ken P is getting rich off me. Sorry, but I pay the union, not trust them. Ever since Hoffa has been our President, UPS has done whatever the hell they want. You want the truth from a driver perspective? OK, the truth is this: our contracts have been good as far as wages goes. That is truth. But where we have taken huge, huge hits, is in contract enforcement. The union has been AWOL in that department. Remember the cardinal sin clause Carey and hall got in the '97 contract? Yeah, where did that go? Remember how electronic equipment wasn't supposed to be used against us? Yeah, what happened to that? And ask ANY UPSer about going to a multi-state panel with your job on the line. Go ahead, ask. Where I'm at, the two-state panel is known as the place where our jobs go to die. Why? Because the people on our side vote against our members. What sort of union lets that happen Stink219? Huh? I'm asking you. There is something terribly wrong with our union when it's own, supposedly, people vote against us in favor of UPS. It makes you wonder, what sort of motivation do those union panel members have to vote against the rank and file? Something under the table, maybe? Maybe you could help me and everyone else who have long wondered that. The average UPS driver makes about $75 to $80 grand a year. You make $50 grand a year more than that. Your BA, you say makes another $15 grand above that. I say when good union members are losing their jobs at panels because union officials are voting against them, that you guys are making too damn much money. What use are you to us? When we need you guys the most, and you guys tell us "it's gonna be alright", and we lose our jobs, do you think you deserve that money? I say hell no. If you guys stood firm at those panels, then I would say you earn every penny. But that's not the case, is it? [/QUOTE]
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