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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 212678" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p><span style="color: Blue">Nothing wrong with having your brotherhood and clearly collective bargaining gives you an advantage in negotiations. Don't dispute that concept at all. </span></p><p><span style="color: Blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: Blue">When the leadership you appoint asks you to make that sacrifice then it has to be for the right reason. Was 97 for the right reason or was it a screw job for the personal glory of Ron Carey. If Carey stays put and is willing to negotiate a upsers only plan that is protected from company control then the CS nightmare would not be forcing our people to now work longer for less. CS is not the only plan in trouble only the worst. In light of these dissapointing results you then have to seriously ask yourself who was right. Carey for pulling the plug as soon as he could or those who had the courage to say he was wrong to walk. You give the examples above of a supervisor coercing Rock to engage in unethical behavior. You could use the line "if everyone else walked off a cliff would you follow suit". Maybe Satallite was a little smarter or quicker then the rest and saw he was headed over a cliff. It certainly appears that way 10 years later. There is a need for soladarity in unionism. There is also the application of recognziing that the mission is misguided or that the order presented is unlawful, unethical or just plain wrong. When you look people in the eye and ask them to risk their lives, mortgages and livelyhood your reasons can be no less then 100 percent right. Carey fell far short of that mark. </span></p><p><span style="color: Blue"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 212678, member: 1912"] [COLOR=Blue]Nothing wrong with having your brotherhood and clearly collective bargaining gives you an advantage in negotiations. Don't dispute that concept at all. When the leadership you appoint asks you to make that sacrifice then it has to be for the right reason. Was 97 for the right reason or was it a screw job for the personal glory of Ron Carey. If Carey stays put and is willing to negotiate a upsers only plan that is protected from company control then the CS nightmare would not be forcing our people to now work longer for less. CS is not the only plan in trouble only the worst. In light of these dissapointing results you then have to seriously ask yourself who was right. Carey for pulling the plug as soon as he could or those who had the courage to say he was wrong to walk. You give the examples above of a supervisor coercing Rock to engage in unethical behavior. You could use the line "if everyone else walked off a cliff would you follow suit". Maybe Satallite was a little smarter or quicker then the rest and saw he was headed over a cliff. It certainly appears that way 10 years later. There is a need for soladarity in unionism. There is also the application of recognziing that the mission is misguided or that the order presented is unlawful, unethical or just plain wrong. When you look people in the eye and ask them to risk their lives, mortgages and livelyhood your reasons can be no less then 100 percent right. Carey fell far short of that mark. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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