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<blockquote data-quote="Inthegame" data-source="post: 1019845" data-attributes="member: 37112"><p>Show me some proven instances of intentional misuse by the Teamsters and UPS acting in collusion to benefit themselves at the expense of participants. </p><p>Pension plans are generally not fully funded for many reasons having nothing to do with misuse. Remeber 2008 and the market meltdown. Lots of dollars disappeared but obligations remained. You're not getting $6000 a month because your fund can't sustain that payment and survive. You know nothing about how plans are structured or funded, yet make wild, reckless accusations. Instead of criticizing, you should be thanking your thoughtful predeccessors for their sacrifices that you will soon enjoy. </p><p>You're the one who should be checking on the boards decisions. Call the (non-paid) trustees with questions, if you know who they are. That information is provided to you at least yearly or will be provided with a call to your local. Oh wait, what am I thinking. That would require effort on your part. Much easier to live in fairy tale land, and blame others for perceived injustices. Have you ever been involved in anything that requires decision making? I didn't think so.</p><p></p><p> Regards</p><p>...an older UPS man...that still cares!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Inthegame, post: 1019845, member: 37112"] Show me some proven instances of intentional misuse by the Teamsters and UPS acting in collusion to benefit themselves at the expense of participants. Pension plans are generally not fully funded for many reasons having nothing to do with misuse. Remeber 2008 and the market meltdown. Lots of dollars disappeared but obligations remained. You're not getting $6000 a month because your fund can't sustain that payment and survive. You know nothing about how plans are structured or funded, yet make wild, reckless accusations. Instead of criticizing, you should be thanking your thoughtful predeccessors for their sacrifices that you will soon enjoy. You're the one who should be checking on the boards decisions. Call the (non-paid) trustees with questions, if you know who they are. That information is provided to you at least yearly or will be provided with a call to your local. Oh wait, what am I thinking. That would require effort on your part. Much easier to live in fairy tale land, and blame others for perceived injustices. Have you ever been involved in anything that requires decision making? I didn't think so. Regards ...an older UPS man...that still cares! [/QUOTE]
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