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satellitedriver

Moderator
I just had to look up the most common felonies;
Here they are.

What are the most common felonies committed in the US? What are common punishments for these felonies? A list of the 20 most common felonies in the US.

(1) Drug abuse violations 1,841,182
(2) Driving while Intoxicated 1,427,494 (aka Felony DUI)
(3) Property crime 1,610,088 (includes burglary, larceny, theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson.)
(4) Larceny-theft 1,172,762
(5) Assault 1,305,693
(6) Disorderly conduct 709,105
(7) Liquor laws 633,654
(8) Violent crime 597,447 (including murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault.
(9) Drunkenness 589,402
(10) Aggravated assault 433,945
(11) Burglary 303,853
(12) Vandalism 291,575
(13) Fraud 252,873
(14) Weapons violations (carrying or possession) 188,891
(15) Curfew and loitering 143,002
(16) Robbery 126,715
(17) Offenses against family and children 122,812
(18) Stolen property (buying, receiving, possession) 122,061
(19) Motor vehicle theft 118,231
(20) Forgery and counterfeiting 103,448
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
When I asked "Does it really matter?" I was not asking in regard to his applying to UPS but instead as to whether it was any of our business in regard to this thread. The felony does matter.

We had a driver who was a tax objector. He had not filed for many years. One day they came in and took him out in handcuffs, parading him in front of all of the drivers just before the PCM. He spent the summer in a minimum security facility. To our surprise he came back to work and is now retired.
 

705red

Browncafe Steward
I just had to look up the most common felonies;
Here they are.

What are the most common felonies committed in the US? What are common punishments for these felonies? A list of the 20 most common felonies in the US.

(1) Drug abuse violations 1,841,182
(2) Driving while Intoxicated 1,427,494 (aka Felony DUI)
(3) Property crime 1,610,088 (includes burglary, larceny, theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson.)
(4) Larceny-theft 1,172,762
(5) Assault 1,305,693
(6) Disorderly conduct 709,105
(7) Liquor laws 633,654
(8) Violent crime 597,447 (including murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault.
(9) Drunkenness 589,402
(10) Aggravated assault 433,945
(11) Burglary 303,853
(12) Vandalism 291,575
(13) Fraud 252,873
(14) Weapons violations (carrying or possession) 188,891
(15) Curfew and loitering 143,002
(16) Robbery 126,715
(17) Offenses against family and children 122,812
(18) Stolen property (buying, receiving, possession) 122,061
(19) Motor vehicle theft 118,231
(20) Forgery and counterfeiting 103,448

Wow, do you realize that half of the NBA could nort work at UPS?:happy2::happy2:
 

JonFrum

Member
I just had to look up the most common felonies;
Here they are.

What are the most common felonies committed in the US? What are common punishments for these felonies? A list of the 20 most common felonies in the US.

(1) Drug abuse violations 1,841,182
(2) Driving while Intoxicated 1,427,494 (aka Felony DUI)
(3) Property crime 1,610,088 (includes burglary, larceny, theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson.)
(4) Larceny-theft 1,172,762
(5) Assault 1,305,693
(6) Disorderly conduct 709,105
(7) Liquor laws 633,654
(8) Violent crime 597,447 (including murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault.
(9) Drunkenness 589,402
(10) Aggravated assault 433,945
(11) Burglary 303,853
(12) Vandalism 291,575
(13) Fraud 252,873
(14) Weapons violations (carrying or possession) 188,891
(15) Curfew and loitering 143,002
(16) Robbery 126,715
(17) Offenses against family and children 122,812
(18) Stolen property (buying, receiving, possession) 122,061
(19) Motor vehicle theft 118,231
(20) Forgery and counterfeiting 103,448
Some of these numbers look awfully low. Are these just the numbers of people convicted???

The number of crimes committed must be many times these numbers.

We should also take the customer's (shipper's and receiver's) wishes into account. Both residential customers and business customers may not want pick-up and delivery drivers who have been convicted of certain felonies or misdemeanors having ready access to their property, knowing their family composition, and knowing if anyone is home or not.
 

JonFrum

Member
. . . You confidently answer "no" thinking that if they obtain your abstract, these things will no longer appear on your abstract. And that is true, but if the company you are applying to avails itself of the services of these data mining companies (who have these incriminating "snapshots" in their files), you will be found out.
I realize the expungement only applies to the official record. What was previously released to the public, and what is known to those who participated in the case, or followed the case at the time, is not erased.

But doesn't the expungement mean that the information can't legally be used by UPS?
 

JonFrum

Member
I don't know any convicted murderers that are emplyoyed anywhere, never mind UPS?
Almost all convicted murderers are employed somewhere eventually, usually after just a few years. You just haven't met them. Lucky you.

The American Criminal Justice System doesn't regard crimes, even serious crimes, as being all that big a deal. The IBT is downright protective of criminals in its own ranks.
 

browniehound

Well-Known Member
Almost all convicted murderers are employed somewhere eventually, usually after just a few years. You just haven't met them. Lucky you.

The American Criminal Justice System doesn't regard crimes, even serious crimes, as being all that big a deal. The IBT is downright protective of criminals in its own ranks.

In my state first degree murder carries a sentence of life without parole. the only job they are doing is making license plates for the man.
 
P

pickup

Guest
I realize the expungement only applies to the official record. What was previously released to the public, and what is known to those who participated in the case, or followed the case at the time, is not erased.

But doesn't the expungement mean that the information can't legally be used by UPS?

Yeah, I suppose you are right. But it is often hard to prove illegality when it comes to hiring issues.
 

JonFrum

Member
In my state first degree murder carries a sentence of life without parole. the only job they are doing is making license plates for the man.
That's only if they are actually convicted and actually sentenced to Life Without Parole in the first place, and are not released for a variety of reasons, thereafter. How many actually serve out their sentence and die in prison?

I did a quick search and found that in 1992, there were only 12,453 Life Without Parole inmates in Federal and State prisons nationwide. That number has since trippled as citizens finally woke up to the crime epidemic. But 12,453 is not many when you think of all the serious crimes, and repeat offenders, and career criminals who deserve Life Without Parole.
 

jay0

New Member
My brother is a UPS driver with a felony Burglary conviction that happened before he was hired. So, yes they do hire felons with theft/burglary charges
 
My onroad supe said that if I got convicted of a felony (this was in the context of a conviction for non-UPS related activity, e.g. weekends and specifically Schedule 1 drugs) that I could not work for UPS. I am a driver.

Good luck, though!
 
I just had to look up the most common felonies;
Here they are.

What are the most common felonies committed in the US? What are common punishments for these felonies? A list of the 20 most common felonies in the US.

(1) Drug abuse violations 1,841,182
(2) Driving while Intoxicated 1,427,494 (aka Felony DUI)
(3) Property crime 1,610,088 (includes burglary, larceny, theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson.)
(4) Larceny-theft 1,172,762
(5) Assault 1,305,693
(6) Disorderly conduct 709,105
(7) Liquor laws 633,654
(8) Violent crime 597,447 (including murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault.
(9) Drunkenness 589,402
(10) Aggravated assault 433,945
(11) Burglary 303,853
(12) Vandalism 291,575
(13) Fraud 252,873
(14) Weapons violations (carrying or possession) 188,891
(15) Curfew and loitering 143,002
(16) Robbery 126,715
(17) Offenses against family and children 122,812
(18) Stolen property (buying, receiving, possession) 122,061
(19) Motor vehicle theft 118,231
(20) Forgery and counterfeiting 103,448

I wonder why "curfew and loitering" is a felony.
Maybe in the context of a parole violation?
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
We had a driver, since retired, who didn't feel it necessary to file his income taxes. One morning he was walked out of the building in handcuffs. To our surprise he came back after a few months, completed his 30 years and retired with a full pension.
 
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