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<blockquote data-quote="MC4YOU2" data-source="post: 1585227" data-attributes="member: 5485"><p>I started as a part timer and voted on each contract vote since 1989. I accepted that article 40, which was IMHO a shaft to those it covered, had been voted in by previous FT AND PT members. I did my time, became a FT Driver and enjoyed the benefits of PT then FT employment. </p><p>You have good and bad with each contract.</p><p> There were many hands in the kettle that created the contracts we all worked under. Same with this one. Yes, the Teamsters negotiators certainly could have presented a more balanced contact upon which to vote, but that didn't happen. The members surely could have stood stronger for better compensation for PTers and Retirees, but that also did not happen. </p><p>You always neglect to mention that UPS, also at the table, is free to present language that is more balanced. That was possible, alas that also did not happen. </p><p>There is blame enough for all involved to go around. It's not as clean a case, as you would suggest, aimed only at the "Teamsters" you so obviously dislike. </p><p>I was a VOTING part timer. No one deserves sympathy for not participating in their own future. </p><p>UPS was always free to insist on full coverage during the first year of pt employment. Wonder why they didn't? They no doubt got tired of ponying up for kids who got $6k in dental braces after 3 months employment, and promptly quit. </p><p>UPS is always free to go back to that plan. PTers are always free to insist on it and vote. </p><p>Further, UPS is ALWAYS free to create the promised 22.3 jobs they promised, thereby raising many PTers into FT and leveling the disparity. Wonder why they don't?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MC4YOU2, post: 1585227, member: 5485"] I started as a part timer and voted on each contract vote since 1989. I accepted that article 40, which was IMHO a shaft to those it covered, had been voted in by previous FT AND PT members. I did my time, became a FT Driver and enjoyed the benefits of PT then FT employment. You have good and bad with each contract. There were many hands in the kettle that created the contracts we all worked under. Same with this one. Yes, the Teamsters negotiators certainly could have presented a more balanced contact upon which to vote, but that didn't happen. The members surely could have stood stronger for better compensation for PTers and Retirees, but that also did not happen. You always neglect to mention that UPS, also at the table, is free to present language that is more balanced. That was possible, alas that also did not happen. There is blame enough for all involved to go around. It's not as clean a case, as you would suggest, aimed only at the "Teamsters" you so obviously dislike. I was a VOTING part timer. No one deserves sympathy for not participating in their own future. UPS was always free to insist on full coverage during the first year of pt employment. Wonder why they didn't? They no doubt got tired of ponying up for kids who got $6k in dental braces after 3 months employment, and promptly quit. UPS is always free to go back to that plan. PTers are always free to insist on it and vote. Further, UPS is ALWAYS free to create the promised 22.3 jobs they promised, thereby raising many PTers into FT and leveling the disparity. Wonder why they don't? [/QUOTE]
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