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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 728208" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I'm for legalization of marijuana and I don't believe this plant presents a great revenue stream for any gov't on 2 grounds. On the first, if marijuana is made legal, how many people will fore go alcohol for marijuana thus cannibalizing the alcohol tax revenue stream? OK, where's the extra gain for the state in that? And you also assume a great influx of people who want to get high who aren't already doing so with alcohol. In the 70's I smoked literally kilos of reefer as I also sold it on the drug black market and it's assumed a "boomer" like me would run headlong for the first legal joint. I rarely drink alcohol as I'm just not a fan of it at all and I can't honestly say (all joking aside) that I will run out and smoke that joint either. I'm pretty happy with life in an "unaltered state" but I do agree if made legal, there will be an initial boom until things settle out and I do think the real loser would be alcohol and only shifting of current tax revenues from alcohol over to marijuana.</p><p> </p><p>The 2nd point that although you can make your own alcohol, a tradition still very alive in my neck of the woods, marijuana is easily homegrown and thus avoid the taxman altogether. In fact, if gov't created a system for legal marijuana as a tax mechanism for revenue, they would also have to create an enforcement arm to deter homegrown as this would cut into govt's tax monopoly model. The new "drug war" would be more tax focused and it's costs would offset any added benefit IMO. Advocates for legalization are IMO grasping at disingenuous straws proposing this tax model as it is easily circumvented. Back in the day marijuana was illegal so skirting the law was necessary but doable. Make it legal on the homefront and without the plants themselves in your possession, how do you determine the weed you have is not gov't weed? </p><p> </p><p>If you are going to legalize it, do so in that anyone can grow their own just like one can grow your own tomatoes. Otherwise, the whole thing IMO will end in failure and the end result will not be what many on the legalization front are promising.</p><p> </p><p>jmo</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 728208, member: 2189"] I'm for legalization of marijuana and I don't believe this plant presents a great revenue stream for any gov't on 2 grounds. On the first, if marijuana is made legal, how many people will fore go alcohol for marijuana thus cannibalizing the alcohol tax revenue stream? OK, where's the extra gain for the state in that? And you also assume a great influx of people who want to get high who aren't already doing so with alcohol. In the 70's I smoked literally kilos of reefer as I also sold it on the drug black market and it's assumed a "boomer" like me would run headlong for the first legal joint. I rarely drink alcohol as I'm just not a fan of it at all and I can't honestly say (all joking aside) that I will run out and smoke that joint either. I'm pretty happy with life in an "unaltered state" but I do agree if made legal, there will be an initial boom until things settle out and I do think the real loser would be alcohol and only shifting of current tax revenues from alcohol over to marijuana. The 2nd point that although you can make your own alcohol, a tradition still very alive in my neck of the woods, marijuana is easily homegrown and thus avoid the taxman altogether. In fact, if gov't created a system for legal marijuana as a tax mechanism for revenue, they would also have to create an enforcement arm to deter homegrown as this would cut into govt's tax monopoly model. The new "drug war" would be more tax focused and it's costs would offset any added benefit IMO. Advocates for legalization are IMO grasping at disingenuous straws proposing this tax model as it is easily circumvented. Back in the day marijuana was illegal so skirting the law was necessary but doable. Make it legal on the homefront and without the plants themselves in your possession, how do you determine the weed you have is not gov't weed? If you are going to legalize it, do so in that anyone can grow their own just like one can grow your own tomatoes. Otherwise, the whole thing IMO will end in failure and the end result will not be what many on the legalization front are promising. jmo [/QUOTE]
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