Crazy things they've made us do..

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by YoungBuck2410, Apr 1, 2015.

  1. YoungBuck2410

    YoungBuck2410 New Member

    Today I shuttled out to an early AM driver. As I was loading his pkgs my supervisor told me to deliver my first stop and help him w his air bc he was heavy. Met him on his route and transfered pkgs and took two air stops off him. Drove 5 miles to my first stop, meanwhile driving right by my two air stops, literally honked to a man I had a signature required for, then drove five miles back, ran those two stop and drove five miles to my second stop.
     
  2. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    Sounds like you are on ORION.
     
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  3. YoungBuck2410

    YoungBuck2410 New Member

    Indeed. I don't mind ORION tbh. It helps in the country as long as it is configured correctly. Also being able to see your route on TV screens in the morning and print maps off with your stops makes it easier to run in the blind.
     
  4. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    After you're on the clock of course.
     
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  5. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    He's a young buck. Figure it out.
     
  6. nayrsiem

    nayrsiem Member

    That's what they are going for. Who needs area knowledge right? Just hire them off the street and put their butts in a seat.
     
  7. joeboodog

    joeboodog good people drink good beer

    I download EDD and I can visualize my route mentally. That comes with a little thing I like to call experience.
     
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  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    There is no way Orion could have accounted for those two air stops and rather than use common sense you chose to drive by those stops rather than deliver them.

    You made a poor decision.
     
  9. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

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  10. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    You are wrong. You absolutely Positively have to do the first stop in Orion, hell or highwater.
     
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  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The two air stops were not taken in to account before he left the building----had they been I would have to think (hope) that Orion would have had him do those air stops first. Either way, you don't drive by 2 air stops regardless of whether you are RDO or ODO.

    Common sense has to prevail and making an unnecessary 10 mile round trip just to prove a point was a very poor decision on his part.
     
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  12. joeboodog

    joeboodog good people drink good beer

    I learned long ago when dealing with UPS, common sense and working as directed often are at odds.
     
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  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Not buying it.

    The air swap was made at the last minute and, much like when they shuttle our air out to us, we need to make smart choices when trying to blend that work in to our day.

    The OP most definitely should have delivered those two air stops rather than make a 10 mile round trip for no reason other than to make a point.

    The OP made a poor decision.
     
  14. tracker2762

    tracker2762 Active Member

    We were told that the only stop that matters with orion is the first stop. The op was only doing what he was told. The sup knew he was taking air off this am driver and should have known these may be his first stops and told him that this was an exception. We don't make these calls any more. You'll find out once your on orion
     
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  15. ViewAskew

    ViewAskew Active Member

    The first stop directive has been the flavor of the month here. I agree with Upstate on this, I'd rather explain making service on air and saving miles rather than hitting an asinine metric.
     
  16. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Work as directed.
     
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  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    As I said, had the stops been in EDD I would agree with his decision, but they were not and the OP most definitely should have delivered those on the way to his first stop. The sup told him to meet the driver on road and help him with his air------how would the sup have know how many stops and where they were before the meet was made?

    Are you telling me that his mgt team would have told him to drive by those two air stops just to do what Orion told him to do? I highly doubt it.

    What would Sober have done? He would have delivered the air stops and then started his run, which would have been the right thing to do.

    The OP made a poor decision just to make a point.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Even when that directive makes little to no sense?
     
  19. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    The more years you have as a driver, the less likely you are to do the stupid stuff.
     
  20. Dr.Brown

    Dr.Brown Swollen Member

    just remember you are allowed so many breaks off ORION trace to meet the 85%.