Deliberate Removal of Accident Packets in Express Trucks?

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by UncleFreddiesBitch, Feb 16, 2016.

  1. Our station had a major accident with the newer Benz Sprinter this week. The courier was ok and was able to walk away from the accident and was deemed non-preventable due to numerous witnesses seeing a stupid driver weaving in lanes and created the accident.

    The courier told me that he did not have one of those Manila accident packets in his truck when getting info from witnesses. The next day, I went to look in my truck and I didn't have a packet either. WTF?!?

    Is this a deliberate move by Express by removing the accident packets? From what I knew is there are witness cards, admissions of fault, and diagrams of the intersection/roadway to help the courier and in some cases corroborates the courier that was not in fault.
  2. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Checking for your accident packet used to be part of the pre-trip procedure. We all know that nobody checks, but maybe we should.
  3. Operational needs

    Operational needs Well-Known Member

    I don't understand. Why would they deliberately remove the packets?
  4. 59 Dano

    59 Dano Well-Known Member

    Someone forgot to stock the truck.
  5. SmithBarney

    SmithBarney Well-Known Member

    Sorry Dano... trucks are audited usually yearly, and an accident packet is something that should never leave a truck ever(unless in accident) Now if it's a NEW vehicle whoever was the first to drive it/set it up probably screwed up and didn't do it right.
  6. Code 82 Approved

    Code 82 Approved Titanium Plus+ Level Member

    I'm not saying that everyone does a pre trip including my contractor...
  7. whenIgetthere

    whenIgetthere Well-Known Member

    We were out of VIR's for a week because the SAL forgot to order them. I was lucky, no one uses my truck at night, so I had plenty of pages left to use. Some had no VIR to sign off on. Not sure of the fine, but I'm sure it ain't pretty if you get pulled over.
  8. Operational needs

    Operational needs Well-Known Member

    I think I would have refused to go on road without a VIR book. Why didn't they send someone to the station closest to yours to get some?
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    It is illegal to go on road without a VIR/DVIR book.
  10. It will be fine

    It will be fine Well-Known Member

    We don't have books at Ground, the scanner generates a printout at the end of the day where defects are indicated.
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The concept is the same.
  12. whenIgetthere

    whenIgetthere Well-Known Member

    Because the hours aren't in the budget! LOL
  13. whenIgetthere

    whenIgetthere Well-Known Member

    I know that, I told others to refuse to go on road, but they went out anyways.
  14. Bounty

    Bounty Active Member

    No such thing as pre or post trip on the ground side. Never seen them done in my terminal for over 10 years.
  15. 59 Dano

    59 Dano Well-Known Member

    So it's beyond the realm of possibilities that someone forgot to put one in a truck?

    The black helicopter is strong with this one.
  16. Route 66

    Route 66 Throbbing Member

    I'm shocked!
  17. I'm throwing out the 'deliberate' label in the same thought-train like all accidents/incidents are preventable until proven unpreventable by an incompetent manager. I feel like those accident packets are like a get out of jail card with the credibility that goes with it.

    I did look into other trucks in my station, and yes the other trucks Did Not have the packets either!
  18. 59 Dano

    59 Dano Well-Known Member

    Why would the company deliberately get rid something that would go a long way in helping to absolve it of any responsibility in an accident?
  19. CJinx

    CJinx Well-Known Member

    No defects detected; meanwhile the truck is smoking and the driver is complaining to his mechanic that he couldn't driver any faster than 20 mph. o_O
  20. dex 84

    dex 84 Active Member

    Low on DEF?