Indecisi0n
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Ours was born a women and looks as if she is transiting to be a man.
Delivering to possible Identity Theft customer
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The only time I will look at the name on the box is if I am at a duplex or apartment complex and there is no apartment number or letter.
The one I had on Friday did not have an apartment letter and the name was not on either mailbox. NSP.
Faceplanted
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I call this old neighbor syndrome and this coincides with the whole see something say something.
Why can't everybody just mind their business. We are not police, investigators or anything like that. Since the addess is Sig required, get your sig and move on.
I got questioned one day by local narcs/dea about a certian house and asked questions about what I remember ect. "Sorry I don't remember or know what your talking about, I just deliver boxes". I noticed fishy behavior but I'm not one to have any right to decide if the behavior is fishy based on any law. My opinion is just that, my opinion. Unless I see somebody getting hurt or harmed I just look the other way. More people need to do this. After working in the hood for years, sometimes it's good to know nothing
This snitch society we are towards will end the same way every other previous snitch societies ended. Government take overs, abuse of power and removal of rights.
Why can't everybody just mind their business. We are not police, investigators or anything like that. Since the addess is Sig required, get your sig and move on.
I got questioned one day by local narcs/dea about a certian house and asked questions about what I remember ect. "Sorry I don't remember or know what your talking about, I just deliver boxes". I noticed fishy behavior but I'm not one to have any right to decide if the behavior is fishy based on any law. My opinion is just that, my opinion. Unless I see somebody getting hurt or harmed I just look the other way. More people need to do this. After working in the hood for years, sometimes it's good to know nothing
This snitch society we are towards will end the same way every other previous snitch societies ended. Government take overs, abuse of power and removal of rights.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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You "lied" to the DEA? Don't you realize that if they did indeed find something "fishy" was going on there that you could have been charged with either being complicit or with obstruction/failure to cooperate? All they wanted to know is if you saw something that they might need to follow up on. They were not asking you whether what you saw was legal or not----that is for them to decide.
Even worse, what if the consignee was involved with child porn or some other such deviant behavior toward children? Would you have still looked the other way?
"See something, say something" is there for a reason.
Maybe he values his life?
Faceplanted
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I did not lie to anybody. I knew nothing. Fishy behavior is just that fishy behavior. I have no right to decide somebody's fate or help in any case based on what my personal opinion is as fishy. law enforcement is here to serve me I, im not here to serve them in something that doesn't even pertain to me. In puerto Rico a delivery driver was killed because he knew about a drug ring. I know nothing, have nothing to say to law enforcement, and I do my job as I should. If I see somebody getting harmed or hurt I have no problem gettig involved, drugs or fraud to me is none of my business
At what point do snitches/nosey people because more than snitches and then into secret police/gastepo.
At what point do snitches/nosey people because more than snitches and then into secret police/gastepo.
gman042
Been around the block a few times
There's a duplex I deliver to that is rented out. The tenant before screwed me over on a delivery so it has become a signature required address. The new tenants moved in around September last year, and by November I noticed these people were receiving packages with different names. These names would delivered for a 2 week stretch, usually by air or 2nd day, then disappear. 2-3 weeks down the line, another name would pop up and another week stretch of deliveries.
Obviously I'm not stupid, I bring it up to loss prevention and he basically just tells me to make sure he signs for it. Yesterday, I delivered a Sprint phone with an unfamiliar name. I ask if he's here. He says he's in school late so he'll sign for it.
Today another Sprint phone came with a different name and I just sheeted it as NO SUCH PERSON and left it for the clerk. I told my sup today that I don't want to be a part of this and need something to be done. I've done everything not to confront the customer but I don't want to deliver there and start an altercation. Have any drivers dealt with this before and can they freeze deliveries to certain addresses ?
Last fall this old dumpy house on an old dumpy dairy started receiving these next day air packages. They were all the same size and weight. The first couple of times I did not pay much attention but then I started noticing that there were about 5 different names on the packages. Never did see anyone around to receive the packages.
Then one day 3 came in and they all had a different name. I took them to supervisor and he notified LP.
Turned out that it was fraudulent. Identity theft.
Now, I could have looked the other way and told myself that it wasn't my problem. I just deliver the boxes. However, there are crooks out in this world that will think it nothing to take everything that I own or you own. They don't care. So I did my part to stop that cycle for this person in particular.
Too many times in this self centered world, we look the other way because it does not directly affect us.
box_beeyotch
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Snitches end up in bodybags.
Faceplanted
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If it was drugs and the Authorities expected you to testify for them and help their case would you? Would you risk your safety and your family members for some silly fraudulent items that were probably paid for by the banks fraud protection and not even payed directly by the victim?
clean hairy
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We are paid to move boxes from point A to point B.
Nowhere does it say we are the Package Police.
I am not saying turn a bling eye if the barrel of an Uzi or a suspicious white powder comes pouring out of a box, but for boxes intact with nothing leaking, we just do our job.
Nowhere does it say we are the Package Police.
I am not saying turn a bling eye if the barrel of an Uzi or a suspicious white powder comes pouring out of a box, but for boxes intact with nothing leaking, we just do our job.
oldngray
nowhere special
We aren't the package police but if the police come to you asking questions then it does become your responsibility. One time I had a couple of Treasury Agents come to UPS and ask me questions about my route when there was some funny money being passed around (and when UPS also accepted cash for COD's). They even gave me a business card to call the Feds if I saw anything. Those are some scary dudes.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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He would be deposed and not forced to take the stand to protect his identity.
BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
What about them made them so scary?
oldngray
nowhere special
Really intensely serious.
jaker
trolling
I don't know about where you guys are , but here in cali there could easily be 6+ different names in one house , so again I don't care what name is on it
BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
I would have farted and put everyone at ease. Lol
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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As long as the name is on the mailbox I wouldn't care either.
ManInBrown
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I don't play cop. I deliver and pickup packages. Getting a signature is as far as I care. Not my problem
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Exactly. UPS got paid to deliver the package. That is pretty much all they care about.
It is not up to UPS to stop identity theft or credit card theft.
LP or security, as it's called now, usually just reports it to the local police and let them deal with it. But they should report something like this to the local police and just not blow it off.
Security usually only investigates internal theft and the customers who denied receiving their packages.
They only care about Rx deliveries because they got into trouble with the feds over Rx deliveries.
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