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<blockquote data-quote="Ricochet1a" data-source="post: 1124320" data-attributes="member: 22880"><p>Any task that involves the accomplishment of a goal by a group of individuals, by DEFINITION requires some level of leadership by individual(s) who are motivated beyond mere personal enrichment. Other factors that motivate leaders are the desire for power (the most common after personal enrichment), justice, revenge, patriotism or even unselfish desire to see the group succeed in the face of adversity. Even Al Capone was a leader... </p><p></p><p>And yes, boldness is a requisite part of leadership balanced with a bit of discretion (using one's head). The persistently timid and meek never rise to the challenge of overcoming adversity. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>My goal that day wasn't to become a martyr for the boys of the 7th grade class - much to the contrary. My motivation was primarily revenge, followed by some form of perceived applied justice. Some were definitely cowards that day, others were just too uncertain of their fellow classmates sticking it through the impending confrontation and getting left in a fight by themselves. Those that had some form of backbone had a desire to achieve the objective, we just didn't trust each other enough to watch each others back once the impeding fight got under way - no one wanted to end up being a martyr while the others stood by and watched. Tall talk exists even among 12 year olds...</p><p></p><p>This is why organizations that engage in a lot of 'fighting' (like the military), spend a lot of time constantly practicing what they do, so that trust can be developed among the participants. Its rather embarrassing for the big day to arrive, and the entire team takes to its heels once the opposition walks onto the field. It happened that day so long ago, it happened in Brockton MA in that Ground terminal (the IBT didn't trust the handlers to follow through) and it is happening right here. </p><p></p><p>And as far as having a 'just objective', Al Capone never had what could be called a just objective, he just had the objective of enriching himself and accumulating as much power as he could in the process. He still met the definition of a leader though. </p><p></p><p>No one needs to become a martyr here and no one is suggesting that the endeavor is unjust. But leadership is a REQUIREMENT given the task at hand (50 cats each going in their own direction aren't going to accomplish a damn thing). For the group to achieve their common goal, the 'congregation' is going to have to listen to someone in the pulpit and actually follow through on what is preached, and not just shout out the occasional, "Amen" then sneak out the back as soon as the organ starts playing... </p><p></p><p>The US Army uses the adage of, "Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way". It applies here just as well. The leader is well recognized. The rest are going to have to make a decision to either follow (with all that entails), or admit they aren't really up to the fight and walk off the field. </p><p></p><p>The sooner this decision is made, the better all will be. Endless 'tall talk' never accomplishes a damn thing, and it just ends up building up false hope and an illusion of something being accomplished. About the only thing that has been accomplished in the past 6 weeks is the confirmation that the IBT has left the Couriers for dead along with the fact that the posters and lurkers to this forum aren't to the point where they are willing to accept direction and work (get outside their 'comfort zone') to achieve their common goal. A few have stated that they are getting out cards in their station - but in the face of the RLA, that is merely pissing in the wind. Even more important than a few posters here getting out cards, is the need to establish network to get organizers (leaders....) in 400+ stations around the country. THEN, there is a remote chance of the big fight day actually occurring, with Fred potentially getting his head pounded into the ground.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ricochet1a, post: 1124320, member: 22880"] Any task that involves the accomplishment of a goal by a group of individuals, by DEFINITION requires some level of leadership by individual(s) who are motivated beyond mere personal enrichment. Other factors that motivate leaders are the desire for power (the most common after personal enrichment), justice, revenge, patriotism or even unselfish desire to see the group succeed in the face of adversity. Even Al Capone was a leader... And yes, boldness is a requisite part of leadership balanced with a bit of discretion (using one's head). The persistently timid and meek never rise to the challenge of overcoming adversity. My goal that day wasn't to become a martyr for the boys of the 7th grade class - much to the contrary. My motivation was primarily revenge, followed by some form of perceived applied justice. Some were definitely cowards that day, others were just too uncertain of their fellow classmates sticking it through the impending confrontation and getting left in a fight by themselves. Those that had some form of backbone had a desire to achieve the objective, we just didn't trust each other enough to watch each others back once the impeding fight got under way - no one wanted to end up being a martyr while the others stood by and watched. Tall talk exists even among 12 year olds... This is why organizations that engage in a lot of 'fighting' (like the military), spend a lot of time constantly practicing what they do, so that trust can be developed among the participants. Its rather embarrassing for the big day to arrive, and the entire team takes to its heels once the opposition walks onto the field. It happened that day so long ago, it happened in Brockton MA in that Ground terminal (the IBT didn't trust the handlers to follow through) and it is happening right here. And as far as having a 'just objective', Al Capone never had what could be called a just objective, he just had the objective of enriching himself and accumulating as much power as he could in the process. He still met the definition of a leader though. No one needs to become a martyr here and no one is suggesting that the endeavor is unjust. But leadership is a REQUIREMENT given the task at hand (50 cats each going in their own direction aren't going to accomplish a damn thing). For the group to achieve their common goal, the 'congregation' is going to have to listen to someone in the pulpit and actually follow through on what is preached, and not just shout out the occasional, "Amen" then sneak out the back as soon as the organ starts playing... The US Army uses the adage of, "Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way". It applies here just as well. The leader is well recognized. The rest are going to have to make a decision to either follow (with all that entails), or admit they aren't really up to the fight and walk off the field. The sooner this decision is made, the better all will be. Endless 'tall talk' never accomplishes a damn thing, and it just ends up building up false hope and an illusion of something being accomplished. About the only thing that has been accomplished in the past 6 weeks is the confirmation that the IBT has left the Couriers for dead along with the fact that the posters and lurkers to this forum aren't to the point where they are willing to accept direction and work (get outside their 'comfort zone') to achieve their common goal. A few have stated that they are getting out cards in their station - but in the face of the RLA, that is merely pissing in the wind. Even more important than a few posters here getting out cards, is the need to establish network to get organizers (leaders....) in 400+ stations around the country. THEN, there is a remote chance of the big fight day actually occurring, with Fred potentially getting his head pounded into the ground. [/QUOTE]
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