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pretzel_man,I just checked the 340 methods and what you say is almost word for word.
P-Man
Can you please cite the page number for me?
I thank you for your contribution to this discussion thread.
Sincerely,
I
pretzel_man,I just checked the 340 methods and what you say is almost word for word.
P-Man
pretzel_man,
Can you please cite the page number for me?
I thank you for your contribution to this discussion thread.
Sincerely,
I
Why do you suppose property owners pay extra money to build walks, and even call them "walks," when it would be cheaper just to have all grass?If a walk way is in line with my direct path I will take it if not across the grass I go with SUP watching or not. I have never been told to stay on a walking path. I have been told and taught to scan my work area and make adjustments as conditions change.
It is simple. The property owner provides you with a walk for you to walk on, (hence the name.)Jon, as usual you have over complicated what is a very simple situation. Common sense dictates how you approach the delivery point with the optimal being a straight line from the PC to the front door. If that is not possible than you stay on the designated walk path.
I have a lady on my route who has expressed in no uncertain terms that all delivery people are to stay off of her grass. She even has a sign on her front door which says that.
Most of us here are homeowners who maintain our own yards so I would think that we would keep this in mind in regard to walking on someone's lawn.
It is simple. The property owner provides you with a walk for you to walk on, (hence the name.)
You are a guest and have no right to walk on the grass unless the property owner has specifically given you authorization. The default presumption is "Keep Off The Grass." Period.
It's like opening a front door and tucking a Driver Release package inside. You are a guest on the property. You have no right to open someone's door unless they have specifically given you permission.
UPS will take advantage of your corner cutting, but if something goes wrong, expect them to cite the Law and leave you hanging out on a limb.
There is something wrong with opening a property owner's storm door without permission and putting a package inside it. The Law doesn't care how you were trained, nor does it make exceptions for UPS or your sense of urgency. Though if a matter ever landed in Court, the fact that you were a well-intentioned UPS delivery man just trying to complete the delivery would be taken into account.If you are talking about putting a package between the storm door and entry door there is nothing wrong with doing that. Opening the entry door and putting the package inside is only done with express permission from the homeowner.
I was trained to use the most direct path Point A to Point B. I was also blessed with common sense so I know which lawns I can walk across and those which I cannot.
If memory serves you are not a driver, are you? Easy to quote verbage when you don't live it every day.
There is something wrong with opening a property owner's storm door without permission and putting a package inside it. The Law doesn't care how you were trained, nor does it make exceptions for UPS or your sense of urgency. Though if a matter ever landed in Court, the fact that you were a well-intentioned UPS delivery man just trying to complete the delivery would be taken into account.
Our building has had customer complaints about storm doors being "sprung," and UPS had to buy the customers a new door. I believe UPS policy is to not open storm doors. But I'm not a driver and am not worthy. Maybe a real driver could comment.
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"I was also blessed with common sense so I know which lawns I can walk across and those which I cannot." Now that's a classic!!!
I just checked the 340 methods and what you say is almost word for word.
P-Man
Its in multiple places. In the EDD version try pages:
15, 17, 24, 25 , 26, 41, 42, 43, 55
There are others. I just did a search for walk.
I didn't check the page numbers for the non-EDD version.
P-Man
pretzel_man,
I have completely reviewed the methods and I see no provision for walking on a customer's lawn.
I also don't see any straight line language. It clearly states that the shortest walk path is to be selected and known.
Anyone with common sense will agree that cutting across a lawn is not considered the walk path to most doorways or driver release locations but it is the sidewalk or walkway that the customer has installed on their property.
If I have missed something in the methods please let me know and forgive me for this oversight.
Sincerely,
I
pretzel_man,
I have completely reviewed the methods and I see no provision for walking on a customer's lawn.
I also don't see any straight line language. It clearly states that the shortest walk path is to be selected and known.
Anyone with common sense will agree that cutting across a lawn is not considered the walk path to most doorways or driver release locations but it is the sidewalk or walkway that the customer has installed on their property.
If I have missed something in the methods please let me know and forgive me for this oversight.
Sincerely,
I
In Idaho Falls, the storm door would be ripped from its hinges !!
We've had customer complaints about doors being "sprung" because the driver forced a door shut with a package inside. And we've had doors not forced shut, so they were damaged by the blowing wind.If the package is an envelope or small enough to completely shut the storm door, then nothing is wrong with that. "Out of sight and out of weather". The problem arises if the package is too large to completely shut the storm door. A strong gust of wind or something could blow the storm or screen door open hard enough to damage it.
Why do you suppose property owners pay extra money to build walks, and even call them "walks," when it would be cheaper just to have all grass?