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<blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 350432" data-attributes="member: 13254"><p>First I respectfully ask, just how many years did you work in an operations center as an hourly employee? </p><p> I regret that you take exception to my post, but that does not alter what I have seen, first hand, for 20+ years. I do believe that the lines of dishonesty weave in and out of the ranks of UPS employees from the bottom to nearly the top (if not all the way to the top).</p><p> Of course the meetings that you have attended have no dishonesty lessons, the success of a good criminal is dependent on secrecy. It's the after meeting personal talks where the underhandedness occurs. </p><p> We have read many a thread on this forum where managers have instructed hourlies to falsify delivery documents to hide missed packages, misloads, and a multitude of other infractions. Do you think this is proper or honest? We've read stories where drivers were unfairly treated, harassed without good cause, even fired to have to fight to keep their jobs when it was not needed. Is this integrity? I have never said that all UPS management people are with out integrity, I have never claimed that all drivers are squeaky clean. I have inserted the things I have seen, experienced and been privy to insider knowledge of and followed with my assessment of the underlying attitude of many management personnel. Just how many bad apples does it take to spoil the bushel?</p><p> P_man I have alot of respect for you and what you do in the employee of UPS, I have no doubt that you earn every dollar on your paycheck and have absolutely no reason to think you are less than truthful. I do , however, sense that you operate daily in an somewhat protected environment, shielded from much of the ugliness that some of us have seen face to face.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trplnkl, post: 350432, member: 13254"] First I respectfully ask, just how many years did you work in an operations center as an hourly employee? I regret that you take exception to my post, but that does not alter what I have seen, first hand, for 20+ years. I do believe that the lines of dishonesty weave in and out of the ranks of UPS employees from the bottom to nearly the top (if not all the way to the top). Of course the meetings that you have attended have no dishonesty lessons, the success of a good criminal is dependent on secrecy. It's the after meeting personal talks where the underhandedness occurs. We have read many a thread on this forum where managers have instructed hourlies to falsify delivery documents to hide missed packages, misloads, and a multitude of other infractions. Do you think this is proper or honest? We've read stories where drivers were unfairly treated, harassed without good cause, even fired to have to fight to keep their jobs when it was not needed. Is this integrity? I have never said that all UPS management people are with out integrity, I have never claimed that all drivers are squeaky clean. I have inserted the things I have seen, experienced and been privy to insider knowledge of and followed with my assessment of the underlying attitude of many management personnel. Just how many bad apples does it take to spoil the bushel? P_man I have alot of respect for you and what you do in the employee of UPS, I have no doubt that you earn every dollar on your paycheck and have absolutely no reason to think you are less than truthful. I do , however, sense that you operate daily in an somewhat protected environment, shielded from much of the ugliness that some of us have seen face to face. [/QUOTE]
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