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<blockquote data-quote="Jones" data-source="post: 121201" data-attributes="member: 4805"><p>Interesting article from NewsWeek:</p><p><strong><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14924664/site/newsweek/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 10px">Does torture really work? Most intelligence experts say no.</span></a></strong></p><p></p><p>Some excerpts:</p><p></p><p><em>U.S. intelligence officers say they have little—if any—evidence that useful intelligence has been obtained using techniques generally understood to be torture.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>The very first high-ranking Al Qaeda operative captured—Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libbi-was first interrogated by the FBI. But when the FBI wanted to use its normal, go-slow methods, the prisoner was turned over to the CIA—who promptly turned him over to the Egyptians. Under the no-doubt rough care of the Egyptians, al-Libbi talked of plots and agents. The information was used to make the case for war against Iraq. <strong><strong><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14740070/site/newsweek/" target="_blank"><strong>As recounted in "Hubris,"</strong></a></strong></strong> a new book by NEWSWEEK's Michael Isikoff and David Corn, there was only one problem: al-Libbi later recanted, <strong>saying that he had lied to stop the torture.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p> <em><strong></strong></em>There really is no good case for torture, assuming your goal is to gain useful information. If your only goal is to torture people who "deserve it" because they are "Islamo-fascists" who don't share our high values, I think it says more about you than it does about the people you want to torture, and you have more in common with them than you realize.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jones, post: 121201, member: 4805"] Interesting article from NewsWeek: [B][URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14924664/site/newsweek/"][SIZE=2]Does torture really work? Most intelligence experts say no.[/SIZE][/URL][/B] Some excerpts: [I]U.S. intelligence officers say they have little—if any—evidence that useful intelligence has been obtained using techniques generally understood to be torture. The very first high-ranking Al Qaeda operative captured—Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libbi-was first interrogated by the FBI. But when the FBI wanted to use its normal, go-slow methods, the prisoner was turned over to the CIA—who promptly turned him over to the Egyptians. Under the no-doubt rough care of the Egyptians, al-Libbi talked of plots and agents. The information was used to make the case for war against Iraq. [B][B][URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14740070/site/newsweek/"][B]As recounted in "Hubris,"[/B][/URL][/B][/B] a new book by NEWSWEEK's Michael Isikoff and David Corn, there was only one problem: al-Libbi later recanted, [B]saying that he had lied to stop the torture. [/B][/I]There really is no good case for torture, assuming your goal is to gain useful information. If your only goal is to torture people who "deserve it" because they are "Islamo-fascists" who don't share our high values, I think it says more about you than it does about the people you want to torture, and you have more in common with them than you realize. [/QUOTE]
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