Differences in contracts

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by dillweed, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. dillweed

    dillweed Well-Known Member

    It will be interesting to see just what differences show up between the NMA and those of 705/710. So far we've heard from our Union rep that pt insurance will be better and that's about it. Everything else has just been rumors.
     
  2. Mike Hawk

    Mike Hawk New Member

    705red's post. 710 got the NMA with $.10 extra in raises, plus an increase in feeder mileage I think.
     
  3. 705red

    705red Browncafe Steward

    Maybe the guys at tdu can do a side by side comparison of all contracts and supplements so we can compare to. I will send an email to them today.
     
  4. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    Any luck? Take a step back from our normal fun and frolics and look at your unions efforts to keep its members informed. they did a great job of posting the early information that really meant nothing. they did a great job of posting the saber rattling call for a strike vote and the strike vote results. But once the offers are finalized we have nothing to look at?
     
  5. Bloodybrown

    Bloodybrown New Member

    Hmmm !!...good point.......its been over a week......maybe the leadership at 705 went on vacation!!!....fishing maybe??
     
  6. dillweed

    dillweed Well-Known Member

    I've been checking the teamster site and no info on 710.
     
  7. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    yep. 710 claims a four percent increase in wages which would be fairly hefty with todays market conditions.
     
  8. 705red

    705red Browncafe Steward

    http://www.teamsterslocal705.org/ups_tentative_agreement.htm

    The contract is now online. It took some time to clean it up and finalize some details. The committee went throught it yesterday and voted to accept it as our tentative agreement and now its with the printers to send out to the members to be voted on.

    I did hear that 710 did accept the ptime package car drivers language. This is truley disappointing and i feel for the ptimers in 710 that will have to wait forever to go into permanent package car.
     
  9. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    with the will/shall thing again. were there any instances where a contract violation was deemed to have happened because the contract read will rather then shall?
     
  10. LU710

    LU710 New Member


    Just to clear the air because I know that there are all kinds of rumors. We did not accept anything that had anything to do with part time drivers!
     
  11. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    In my opinion its a matter of time in contracts before you have part time drivers. The customers work day could easily range from 7 am to 9 pm. If you don't want full time drivers working the big days then you may have to find some part time driver language you can live with.
     
  12. Mike Hawk

    Mike Hawk New Member

    And why would a customer being open at 9:00 PM affect UPS? Trailers are pulled, no point in a pickup and what customer wants their delivery at 9:00 PM?
     
  13. mattwtrs

    mattwtrs Retired Senior Member

    Some customers what the packages off their docks even if they are not moving in the UPS system. If the customer is big enough they get a Saturday p/u for ground. The union said it's OK just so a supervisor isn't doing it!
     
  14. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    To partly agree with Tie,on the pickup part, we have customers that have pickups around the clock especially at the Cach. Money talks and if theres enough to be made it will be picked up.
     
  15. browned out

    browned out Active Member

    Tieguy or anyone else who has the time/. Red has pointed out many improvements in the 705 contract so can someone point out where it is not better than the national
     
  16. dillweed

    dillweed Well-Known Member

    Now that's a good question.
     
  17. babboo25

    babboo25 Member

    I am in 710, we now have 3 option days. We can now break up our option week into seperate days. Not sure if that's the same anywhere else. Atleast in our center 705 has lost alot of respect, they threatened a strike and settled for the same thing we did.
     
  18. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    And to retort,it really breaks us up that you guys don`t like us. Does that mean you guys will put together your own sets,jack your own trailers,and give back the new tractors,for starters?
     
  19. Mike Hawk

    Mike Hawk New Member

    Amazing! This poster has managed to acquire a computer and post on the internet, but lacks the intelligence to scroll up and see the differences in the 705 contract. Had he done so he would have realized his argument has no merit and not posted it, thus making him look like an idiot!

    (Sounds best when said in an Australian accent.)
     
  20. Mike Hawk

    Mike Hawk New Member

    If they are generating enough volume to be picked up round the clock it would be by feeder right? Feeders have staggered start times to my understanding, so scheduling them later or earlier is not an issue that warrants PT drivers.