Discharges, panel outcomes, local hearing reference library

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by hellfire, Oct 16, 2015.

  1. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    I have been wondering why a log of every discipline concern outcome heard by the union is not made and available for all to research. I know it would amount to a huge amount of paperwork, but it would also show blatant irregularities and outcomes for similar infractions. It would be a great resource for good stewards and employees as well
     
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  2. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    It already exists, but there are only so many secret decoder rings available.
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  3. misloaderoftheyear

    misloaderoftheyear New Member

  4. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

  5. misloaderoftheyear

    misloaderoftheyear New Member

    Isn't that what you wanted? To get a copy of that you have to have a case at panel (so I hear). However they should be made more easily available to all members who want them.
     
  6. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    There are stenographers that record all panel discussions/decisions on the local/area/state/national levels. There's also a national panel case CD that IBT distributes to the business agents nationwide.

    There's really very little reason that this information isn't made more accessible to the membership. While every case is different and I can see a member facing a termination try to cite a case with different circumstances and try to undermine their BA, this is such a small "risk" that it shouldn't preclude this information being more publicly available.

    The company already has this information (along with every Memorandum of Understanding, grievance settlements, etc etc.) and actually does as good (if not better) a job of cataloging/indexing it and making it available to their labor managers.
     
  7. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    At the Ohio Panel, I kid you not, they still use a 1980's analog cassette recorder.
    I always have to hold back my laughter when they stop the hearing to flip the cassette over and go back on the record. SMH
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  8. 5habits100

    5habits100 Well-Known Member

    There is not a stenographer or recorder at the National.
     
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  9. 5habits100

    5habits100 Well-Known Member

    Last time I was at the Ohio Panel they didn't have a cassette it was digital.
     
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  10. Whatusay

    Whatusay Member

    All Discharge panels are corrupt!
     
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I don't plan on ever finding out.
     
  12. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    They probably only bring out the tape recorder when I'm there.
     
  13. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Make an appointment with your Local BA.

    Or, get elected in to office.


    Don't be lazy.


    Who's willing to pay for it ?



    That's an assumption.... on your part.

    You can't compare cases.

    "Based on the facts presented" means just that.



    I've posted pics of them before. ;)


    Everyone has the info.

    The company, just makes it look pretty.



    Someone.... adept with technology (like yourself)

    Should have just asserted your "intellectual" dominance, by laughing.


    What could go wrong ?



    It takes a lot, to get fired from UPS.


    But, then again....

    We are gifted with some unique people.



    -Bug-
     
  14. wide load

    wide load Well-Known Member

    How much time do you spend at the Ohio arbitrations?
     
  15. 5habits100

    5habits100 Well-Known Member

    You must be special I don't get to go that often don't have that many grievances that have to go
     
  16. 5habits100

    5habits100 Well-Known Member

    There isn't a sitting arbitrator in Ohio. If it deadlocks it goes to JAC
     
  17. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Just to expound on that a little further....

    Typically, only "white paper contracts" can have an arbitrator involved.


    UPS, Freight, and Private Cartage, are involved with the Panel Systems.



    -Bug-
     
  18. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Carl already hates me enough, but what the hell.
     
  19. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I generally leave after my case is heard.
     
  20. 5habits100

    5habits100 Well-Known Member

    ???