Dishonest sups due you have one?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by unemployed3, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. unemployed3

    unemployed3 New Member

    Dishonest sups, i know of two , making backroom deals, so due you have one?
    Had one call me and tell me if the center manager asks you , if i did a safety ride with you tell him i did. the center manager never asked but if he is doing that with me, how many more drivers is he doing it with ?
  2. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    Falsifying safety rides is probably worse than the account executive falsifying customer contacts.
    I've seen AE's walked out the gate for falsifying customer visits.
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Just curious, what would you have said had the center manager asked you about the safety ride?
  4. unemployed3

    unemployed3 New Member

    I would of hung him out to dry, because if the shoe was on the other foot they would do the same.
  5. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Yes we do, along with some Managers and Drivers.
  6. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    There are no dishonest management. They are all boy scouts and girl scouts.
  7. grizbiker

    grizbiker New Member

    A better question would be, do you know an honest sup or manager?
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Yes--the center manager, on-car, PDS and night sort manager at my center.
  9. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Have a ft sup in one of the outbounds that continually disregards a building wide policy on mandating all trailers that hub workers are in be flagged to prevent being pulled off mistakenly. Last night there were 40 trailers that were unflagged yet had hub people in them working. This guy has had more than one safety issue he has been called out on and yet he always finds a scapegoat to hide behind. If anyone ever gets killed they will have a heck of a lawsuit based on his track record of negligence.
  10. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid


    99.9% of the managment people I have dealt with over 24 years have been what I would call "wallet honest", meaning that if I dropped my wallet on the floor in their office they would return it to me the next day and all of my money would still be in it.

    These same people, however, would turn around and lie to me in a heartbeat if they were instructed to do so by their superiors. I can forgive them for that, especially if we are talking about a 53 year-old on-car sup whose only goal is to try and keep from getting fired for the next 2 years so that he can retire with his medical benefits intact. I call that "survival" dishonesty and for me it belongs in a completely different moral category than the "I want to get promoted" dishonesty that is the hallmark of the gung-ho corporate climber who will screw anybody over in order to get a raise. Both types of dishonesty are wrong of course, but the former is merely regrettable while the latter is utterly contemptible.
  11. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster


    How would the ft sup's track record effect a law suit ?

    Employers cannot be sued for negligence in Illinois.

    You should report this unsafe work practice immediately.

    This supervisor should be fired if he or she is unwilling to follow local and/or corporate safety policy.

  12. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Why don't you???
  13. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster


    I am not sure I understand?

    Why don't I do what?

  14. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Why don't you drop the dime??
  15. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    You think we haven`t in the past? You think we`re not going to in the future? And yet the management that knows about this incompetent clown continue to allow him to keep his job. And therein is the liability across the board. And when someone gets hurt we`ll make sure there is no deniability.
  16. rod

    rod retired and happy

    All of upstates management team are honest?

    Good Lord!!!---if these people would do an abrupt 90 degree turn ol upstate would end up with a broken nose.
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2011
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I had a couple of co-workers like you. Thankfully they have both retired and moved on. Maybe you should move on as well.
  18. rod

    rod retired and happy

    no way--------------------------------this is too much fun.
  19. FracusBrown

    FracusBrown Ponies and Planes

    Who's job is it to flag the trailers? Who's job is it to ensure there is no one in the trailer before pulling it? Should these people disciplined for their infractions?
  20. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    Who's job is it to make sure that the flags are put on the trailers? That would be the sup!