ORLY!?!
Master Loader
It doesnt take much imagenation on how load quality effects drivers, especially if those drivers never came up learning PASS.
Do you have any respect for drivers who never worked on the inside?
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It doesnt take much imagenation on how load quality effects drivers, especially if those drivers never came up learning PASS.
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
I'm not sure I understand your inference here.
ORLY!?!
Master Loader
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uber
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Yeah, I have a little resentment for drivers that were essentially given a silver spoon with the company and didn't have to bust their arse for essentially peanuts in the warehouse for years the way the majority of us have. Especially, when the driver who didn't work his way up chimes in with smart, condescending responses about issues that he never had to deal with.
I keep relaying to my family members that ask when I'm going to go driving that its all worth it. Sometimes I question whether it is myself.
I keep relaying to my family members that ask when I'm going to go driving that its all worth it. Sometimes I question whether it is myself.
Coldworld
60 months and counting
Some of the outside hires just don't get it.....the next contract should continue to address the issue but now days its pretty uncommon for outsidr hires to come straight into driving..hang in there
bigbrownhen
Well-Known Member
I was an outside hire. While delivering for another company in our area, I knew a few of the UPS drivers and one told me about the position coming up. I applied and got the job. As my family was just getting by, no insurance, living week to week, it was like winning the lottery. I love my job, apprecialte the living it gives my family. I also have lived the difference of working for a non-union company.
I never disrespect my pre loaders. I understand what they are putting up with. If I have a problem with how they do the job, I will discuss it with them. I defend them regularly when management is all over them.
It doesnt really matter how we got the job. We need to have respect for each position.
I never disrespect my pre loaders. I understand what they are putting up with. If I have a problem with how they do the job, I will discuss it with them. I defend them regularly when management is all over them.
It doesnt really matter how we got the job. We need to have respect for each position.
bottomups
Bad Moon Risen'
One of these days this issue has to be put to rest. Why so much animosity towards someone becoming a package car driver without coming up through the part time ranks? If someone hires on with UPS under the guidelines of the contract at the time, so be it! That contract was in force because the majority of the members who chose to vote, voted yes.
I sat in on many proposal meetings in my local before the current contract was finalized and sent out for a vote. I can count on one hand the number of part timers that even showed up to voice their opinions. If you don't like the current contract become involved to change it next time around.
If I remember correctly, from those proposal meetings, UPS cannot legally hire ALL drivers from within and thus the outside hire included in whatever ratio was decided upon.
I started part time as an unloader while finishing my degree, worked up to preload and went full-time in about 2 years. I was lucky to have come into the company at a time of fast growth. I guess I paid my "dues" as some of you out there demand should happen, but I don't see where it has made me a "better" full-timer!
I sat in on many proposal meetings in my local before the current contract was finalized and sent out for a vote. I can count on one hand the number of part timers that even showed up to voice their opinions. If you don't like the current contract become involved to change it next time around.
If I remember correctly, from those proposal meetings, UPS cannot legally hire ALL drivers from within and thus the outside hire included in whatever ratio was decided upon.
I started part time as an unloader while finishing my degree, worked up to preload and went full-time in about 2 years. I was lucky to have come into the company at a time of fast growth. I guess I paid my "dues" as some of you out there demand should happen, but I don't see where it has made me a "better" full-timer!
Coldworld
60 months and counting
Personally for me its not the fact that someone got hired off the street...its the fact that the ratio was 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 for so many years. It's not like UPS was taking part timers after a year or two...some locations are waiting 10+ years that's where the sour attitudes come from....bottomups can UPS legally hire for all their management folks from the inside??? Which they say they are proud of doing.
menotyou
bella amicizia
The OP has gone out of his way to make sure there is hostility between us. That is where it comes from. I have no hostility towards anyone else. I don't enjoy feeling any ill will. I will not tolerate being treated worse than toe jam, though. Nancy wants to play dirty and cruel, I guess those are the rules under which we shall interact, then.
The drivers who have been lucky enough to jump ahead of the insiders who have waited over a decade for that job, have been humble enough to know not to throw it in others faces. I have no use for know-it-all jerk faces who are so abusive, at times, it sickening. That would be the OP. A petty, little chubby holder who sits in the corner dreaming up ways to hurt others. He has earned my disdain.
The drivers who have been lucky enough to jump ahead of the insiders who have waited over a decade for that job, have been humble enough to know not to throw it in others faces. I have no use for know-it-all jerk faces who are so abusive, at times, it sickening. That would be the OP. A petty, little chubby holder who sits in the corner dreaming up ways to hurt others. He has earned my disdain.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
I came in off the street for summer driving along with 2 insiders. End of summer I was still driving and they were not.
iowa boy
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klolx
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moreluck
golden ticket member
Be nice...it was air force , (hot-air force)
bottomups
Bad Moon Risen'
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
you dont understand preload, as it currently exists, at all
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
kingOFchester
Well-Known Member
I hope you got your flame suit on.
For the most part, part timers probably do sling a lot more weight then a driver not even taking in consideration the shortened work day. But the mental stress of a part timer doesn't compare to a driver. I have done both and will say my stress level as a driver is far higher then a preloader.
For the most part, part timers probably do sling a lot more weight then a driver not even taking in consideration the shortened work day. But the mental stress of a part timer doesn't compare to a driver. I have done both and will say my stress level as a driver is far higher then a preloader.
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