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  1. therodog

    therodog 21 Year Slave Driver

    SPANISH NEWSPAPER ARTICLE. KEEP IT FOREMOST IN
    YOUR THINKING THAT THIS WAS WRITTEN BY A SPANISH
    WRITER



    ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ
    By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez(*)

    I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly
    discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz .
    We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20
    million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture,
    thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen
    people, truly chosen, because they produced great and
    wonderful people who changed the world.

    The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of
    life: science, art, international trade, and above all,
    as the conscience of the world. These are the people
    we burned.

    And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we
    wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the
    disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million
    Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance,
    religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and
    poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support
    their families with pride.

    They have turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the
    third world, drowning in filth and crime.

    Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the
    government, they plan the murder and destruction of
    their naive hosts.

    And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for
    fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill,
    intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

    We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of
    Europe and their talent for hoping for a better future
    for their children, their determined clinging to life
    because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for
    people consumed by the desire for death for themselves
    and others, for our children and theirs.

    What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.

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    *This is a translation of an article from a Spanish newspaper. Please send this article
    to as many people as possible, with a request to forward it on.

    A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality
    that they imagine America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
    Absolutely No Profiling!
    Pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following
    multiple choice test.
    These events are actual events from history. They really
    happened! Do you remember?

    1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
    a. Superman
    b. Jay Leno
    c. Harry Potter
    d.. a Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

    2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
    a. Olga Corbett
    b. Sitting Bull
    c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
    a. Lost Norwegians
    b. Elvis
    c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
    a. John Dillinger
    b. The King of Sweden
    c. The Boy Scouts
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
    a. A pizza delivery boy
    b. Pee Wee Herman
    c. Geraldo Rivera
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
    American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
    a. The Smurfs
    b. Davey Jones
    c. The Little Mermaid
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver
    trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
    a. Captain Kidd
    b. Charles Lindberg
    c. Mother Teresa
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
    a. Scooby Doo
    b. The Tooth Fairy
    c. The Sundance Kid
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
    a. Richard Simmons
    b. Grandma Moses
    c. Michael Jordan
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
    a. Mr. Rogers
    b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
    c. The World Wrestling Federation
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


    11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles
    to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one
    crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and
    crashed by the Passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
    a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
    b. The Supreme Court of Florida
    c. Mr. Bean
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
    a. Enron
    b. The Lutheran Church
    c. The NFL
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
    a. Bonnie and Clyde
    b. Captain Kangaroo
    c. Billy Graham
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So,
    to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent
    on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to
    profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old
    women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who
    are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen
    with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave
    Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

    Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds
    and other dunder-headed attorneys along with Federal Justices that want
    to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselve -- if they have any such sense.

    As the writer of the award winning story "Forrest Gump" so aptly put it, "Stupid is as stupid does."
    Come on people wake up!!! Keep this going. Our Country and our troops need our support.

    P.S.: And guess who bombed London ?
     
  2. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    If Europe doesn't stand up and stop the spread of Islam through the region then Europe will be lost. France will be the first to go if they don't do something. England would probably be next. That scares me because they are out best ally. 911 did so much damage to our country but one good thing that came out of it was that it opened ours eyes to the threat of Islam. I'm hoping that will help prevent what's happening in Europe from happening here. Right now the greatest threat to our country isn't only Islam. It's the fact that many people have an apparent need to appease these people rather than stop them from comming after us.
     
  3. diesel96

    diesel96 New Member

    Some people think Ann Coulter’s original quote after 9/11, “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity” was just the heated rhetoric of a right wing nutcase, but in reality she just said out loud what most of the right wing was thinking and still does.
    It’s like with every incident that occurs, they are saying, now can we put them in detention camps? Now can we make them publicly renounce their religion? Now can we invade Iran, Syria, Lebanon, etc.?
    If the neo-nut jobs have their way, you’ll see Muslims turned away out-right from entering airports, grocery stores, malls, etc. After that, it’ll come to banning Muslims from the Western World altogether, and not just the United States. Imagine mass deportations of Muslims from countries like Spain, France, England, Russia, Germany.

    I thought we were the home of the brave. Apparently some of us can be made to fear little bunny rabbits if told to fear them. 25% to 50% of our population can be spoon-fed anything and they take it like 4 yr olds. They open wide and swallow.
    Just another excuse to breed hate. Love to hate anyone at anytime. Thats what life is about for you isn’t it ? Pick a fear, then spread the hate. Maybe they should sign up for labotomys since their brain really get know use.

    With this logic, let’s start with banning all whites guys (Timothy McVeigh)joining the ARMY to get military training.<--------Sarcasm folks

    Now you want to use "our troops need our support" rightt wing lingo to support your fixation on condememing and profiling ALL Muslim and Islamic people. The very same people "our troops" are dying for restoring their country and way of life back to some sort of normalcy. Hell, lets just wack all the 17 to 40 yr olds over there.
     
  4. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    I'm for deporting ANYONE without citizenship papers.

    I notice in my newspaper ( S. CA.) that the names of perps. in major crimes , be it gang-type or white collar type, are basically unpronounceable......how's that for P.C.?

    Not very tolerant and I'm getting worse!!

    I have stopped shopping at Mervyn's here. About 99% of the clerks are middle eastern and they are yapping in their foreign language to each other and it makes me very uncomfortable. I take my dollar elsewhere. Since I have no way of telling the "good ones from the bad ones", I avoid them altogether. Any business done with them in the past has been unsatisfactory.......from cheating to lying etc.

    I would like the borders to stop the influx. I'm all for barriers at the Mexican border too.

    You go try to move to Australia. Unless you are married to an Aussie, you are not allowed to live there. We need to be more strict. If someone doesn't want to take the path to citizenship, then send their :censored2: back to the country of origin !!

    I'm probably going to hear it from all the bleeding hearts out there, but I don't care because these are my feelings and they are valid to me.
     
  5. magoo57

    magoo57 Member

    Ms. Moreluck. you seem to be a fine lady and you have supported me in this forum. So it is with great trepidation that I take a stand different from yours.
    Part of my ancestry is Irish. For 75 years my people owned the copyright to terrorism. If I spoke with a brogue instead of a Southern drawl, I could have been taken in by Engish authorities when I visited there after college. When I see the persons at my guard shack and in the offices with their prayer rugs praying towards Mecca, I have to remind myself that once praying towards statues of the Madonna or to the Sacred Heart of Jesus could have gotten me lynched in parts of the US 100 years ago.
    And if these people speak in a language different from mine? Well, it's not my conversation. I don't understand the language my daughter uses when she textes. What should one do with her? (Yes, I try to keep up and I get a readout of her IMs, etc.)
    Like you, I do believe that only legal residents should be here, but I also remember the past. Where if you did not speak English with a Midwestern accent, you were considered a hick. That a person whose family had been Americans for over a century were still not "really" American and placed in Japanese-American interrment camps. Or where Mark Twain's works were not studied in schools since the books used Southern slang.
    I believe in the rule of law and the hope of America. I do not think that the teaching of the prophet Mohammed- whom I have read in transliteration( Muslims state that the words of the Allah can not be translated). I hate to say it, but Catholicism was more bloody during periods like the Cathar Crusades or the Spanish Inquisition.





    ( I didn't expect the bloody Spanish Inquisition)
     
  6. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    The difference for me is that we presently are in a war with an enemy.....it is the enemy's language that I am referring to.

    I live in S. CA. and I have Spanish around me constantly, everywhere. I am used to that, but when I hear that middle eastern language ( I don't even know what it's called) that is the enemy talking.

    The terrorists are sneaky and walk among us with their fake documents and student visas. I don't trust anyone of that ethnic background right now.

    I had grandparents with Italian accents and with Slovakian accents.......but Italians & Slovaks were not the enemy. The key word is ENEMY.
     
  7. magoo57

    magoo57 Member

    But between 1941 and 1944, the Italians WERE the enemy. How would the 'you' of that era think about these persons who speak an "enemy" language and have such strong connections to an 'enemy' country?
    We do have a war on terrorism, but the US is not currently at war with any country .
     
  8. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Well, I wasn't born 'til '47. I can only know how I feel as me. There was no 'me' back then.

    To use your words.....our war is on terrorism. So far, the only terrorists seem to be radical islamic.........I can't tell from an Islamic person if they are radical or not.....so I avoid them all. My way of dealing with it. I don't say anything, except maybe in a discussion such as this. I mind my own business and I steer clear of those that I recognize as islamic.

    Just my way, I guess, and I'm set in my way.

    The only time I spoke my mind to one was when a very rude man with a turban or rag or whatever they wear on their head walked in front of me and a couple other ladies in line at the store. I told him that's not the way we do things here and to go to the back of the line........I know they don't like women much, so passing us by in line was probably (in his mind) his Allah given right. Anyway, he could've been French, German Italian or anything.....I would've still said the same thing.

    I'm getting off topic, sorry. Label me intolerant.
     
  9. Both of you bring up some good points. I am a firm believer in immigration as long as it is done the legal way. But I agree with magoo about "profiling" just because of their background. I have a German background, my grandfather fought in the US Army during WW2. However when he came back home he was ridiculed and mobbed because he too was the "enemy" regardless of the fact that that he served with the 29th Infantry division at Normandy and across much of Europe.
     
  10. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    "...he was ridiculed and mobbed because he too was the "enemy"..."

    That was wrong FBTB. Your grandfather served his country, and deserved better. I thank him for his service. I think that happened a lot in the past (think Viet Nam vets), and I also think that as a country we are now much better at appreciating our vets.

    The difference is I bet your grandfather spoke out against Nazi attrocities, didn't he? I've never heard a Muslim speak out against Muslim attrocities.

    If I were in charge of airport security, I would have every Muslim searched thoroughly. Just common sense, I think. And there's no way I'd board a plane after seeing a bunch of them praying to Allah.

    Let's do the smart thing instead of the politically correct thing.
     
  11. diesel96

    diesel96 New Member

    Would you like to give them the rubber glove treatment Dr Over
    9-five ?
    And while you have them bare, have them form naked pyrimads and take incriminating photos.
    I feel everyone needs to be scrutinized. Being a Scooby Doo fan, they always had a surprise ending by exposing the culprits real face hidden by a mask or make up.
     
  12. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    "Would you like to give them the rubber glove treatment Dr Over
    9-five ?"

    Not me personally. I would hire someone with really large fingers....... !


    It all comes down to (for me) one easy question:

    Why don't the "good" Muslims condemn Muslim attrocities? Why don't they speak out against their fellow Muslims who are terrorists? Why don't they DO something about their "religion"?

    OK, that was three, but you get my point.
     
  13. traveler

    traveler Where next? Venice

    quote from over9five:

    "It all comes down to (for me) one easy question:

    Why don't the "good" Muslims condemn Muslim atrocities? Why don't they speak out against their fellow Muslims who are terrorists? Why don't they DO something about their "religion"?"

    That is the question every thinking, non-Muslim is always asking. In all the TV interviews where this has been asked there always seems to be an answer filled with spin but never a direct answer. Any of our illustrious posters here have any answer to this? Will any Muslim ever directly answer this question? Or are they all afraid to publicly condemn the actions of other Muslims?
     
  14. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    I often wonder if jews didn't wonder those same questions about us so called "good christians" during the many brutal times of our own Christian past!

    Sorry, just thinking out loud!
     

  15. It's funny you mention that about the Vietnam vets. I had just finished reading a book about why Vietnam vets were given such a bad image and stereotyped as crazy alcoholic murderers and psychos. As it turns out, this author did some research and complied a database of newspaper articles from all over the country writing about "Crazied Vietnam vet kills family" or "Green Beret-Vietnam vet claims PTSD made him attack wife". He did a FOI request and found most of the people claiming to be Vietnam War veterans (As well as most of the bums you see in the city wearing fatigues and patches) aren't really Vietnam vets at all and most never served in the military. He also researched VA hospitals and found that most guys going in there for treatment for PTSD claiming they "Saw and did horrible things while on special missions for black government agencies" or "Because I was a NAVY Seal and had to do all sorts of nasty missions for the CIA" had never served in Vietnam, the military or any sort of special forces. Very interesting read.
     
  16. Channahon

    Channahon New Member

    Prior to the 911 attack by Muslims and yes they have done their fair share of terrorism over the years. Does anyone remember?

    Timothy James McVeigh (aka Oklahoma City bomber April 23, 1968June 11, 2001), was a former Army soldier and security guard who was convicted of eleven United States federal offenses and ultimately executed for his role in the April 19, 1995, Oklahoma City bombing. The bombing, which claimed 168 lives, was the deadliest act of terrorism within United States borders until the September 11, 2001 attacks and remains the deadliest incident of domestic terrorism in the United States.

    Who would have thought one American would have masterminded a plan to kill innocent men, women and children in a terrorist act.

    Who knows what the answers are in today's world? The Middle East has always been in turmoil, they don't even like other Muslim groups within their own region. I just don't understand how they can praise Allah, read the Koran and go out and commit acts of terrorism.

    Who knows what anyone is thinking or planning regardless of their race or ethnic background anymore. It's a tough world out there.

    The one thing about the United States of America is freedom of religion and we make our choices as to what God and religion we believe and practice. My thoughts are just keep praying, stay vigilant, support this country and be thankful for our freedom.
     
  17. DS

    DS Fenderbender

     
  18. We try to make it harder for them to come in but the liberals won't let us
     
  19. diesel96

    diesel96 New Member

    Enlightlen US on your theory of Liberal Muslim mania into the US under a Neo-Con controlled Administration for the past 7 years. Sounds like a very broad Conservative AM Talk Radio Claim. I like to hear this one.
    I need more Cow Bell .
     
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