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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 843564" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>JonFrum,</p><p>you are correct that where state law is more generous, that would also have to be followed, but again, not one second more. I did not mention state law, but I believe it was sort of implied and in any case the remainder of my statement on that topic stands, IMO.</p><p></p><p>I share your incredulity about the 60% number. It comes from a meeting I attended with HR where FMLA was discussed and a smaller operation with something like 23 employees has around 15 on FMLA I will see if I can get confirmation on those numbers, but I do remember it was somewhere higher than 50% which is just crazy, and a nightmare to try and run an operation with. I had a tough time believing it. I can only surmise someone found a small town doc in the box as optimus would say</p><p></p><p>Your suggestions about discovery of fraud remind me of many of the directives I get from UPS corporate execs. They sound great on paper, but the real world application of them is pretty much impossible. Call a doctor to verify an appointment was kept? How do I know which intermittent FMLA is for appointments? The paperwork I get just says they have x number of days per week or month, it does not tell me what it is for. Once approved, they can just call in saying I am using an FMLA day. OK, what doctor do I call at that point, and what do I ask? Take the migraine example I gave. That has nothing to do with an appointment, I just have a headache, so I am not coming to work Where do I go with that? If I track his usage for a year, who do I ask "Hey, medically speaking, why is this guy getting 95% of his migraines on a Friday or a Monday?" What does that prove? Who is going to say, yeah that is highly unlikely, the dude is likely abusing the system? And if they did, what in any of that would be actionable? I will tell you, nothing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 843564, member: 14596"] JonFrum, you are correct that where state law is more generous, that would also have to be followed, but again, not one second more. I did not mention state law, but I believe it was sort of implied and in any case the remainder of my statement on that topic stands, IMO. I share your incredulity about the 60% number. It comes from a meeting I attended with HR where FMLA was discussed and a smaller operation with something like 23 employees has around 15 on FMLA I will see if I can get confirmation on those numbers, but I do remember it was somewhere higher than 50% which is just crazy, and a nightmare to try and run an operation with. I had a tough time believing it. I can only surmise someone found a small town doc in the box as optimus would say Your suggestions about discovery of fraud remind me of many of the directives I get from UPS corporate execs. They sound great on paper, but the real world application of them is pretty much impossible. Call a doctor to verify an appointment was kept? How do I know which intermittent FMLA is for appointments? The paperwork I get just says they have x number of days per week or month, it does not tell me what it is for. Once approved, they can just call in saying I am using an FMLA day. OK, what doctor do I call at that point, and what do I ask? Take the migraine example I gave. That has nothing to do with an appointment, I just have a headache, so I am not coming to work Where do I go with that? If I track his usage for a year, who do I ask "Hey, medically speaking, why is this guy getting 95% of his migraines on a Friday or a Monday?" What does that prove? Who is going to say, yeah that is highly unlikely, the dude is likely abusing the system? And if they did, what in any of that would be actionable? I will tell you, nothing. [/QUOTE]
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