Does a disability override seniority on a bid?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by hellfire, Apr 23, 2015.

  1. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    A combo job came up and i decided to take the paycut plunge, i won the seniority part hands down but i was told by HR the job was given to another driver because the union and co. came to a agreement on a ADA issue. Legal?
     
  2. burrheadd

    burrheadd Superstar

    Grieve it and see where it goes
     
  3. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    I like the guy, if its legit,so be it. I dont want to be a @$$ about it. I was wondering if anyone here has seen it happen
     
  4. rod

    rod retired and happy

    seniority rules --- grieve it
     
  5. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    If the other person has a medical issue that prohibits them from driving then UPS needs to make a job for them on the inside. They are not suppose to stick them in an open position that position should go out to bid.

    Grieve it....
     
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  6. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    You could grieve it, probably successfully but I pick my battles. I'd rather pass on it than look like a douche to everyone
     
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  7. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Agreed. That would be an extra side deal that violates the contract.
     
  8. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Guest

    Did they put up a bid that you signed?
     
  9. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    yes
     
  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    We had a driver who had a bad habit of hitting things while driving. She had 3 Tier 3's within 12 months. The Union and Company agreed to create a 22.3 job just for her----no one else can bid on it and it will be abolished when she no longer works here.

    To the OP----yeah, you would look like a dick if you grieved it, but if the bid was posted with no restrictions and you are the most senior qualified employee to sign the bid sheet then the position would be yours.
     
  11. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    yeah, thats what im thinking
     
  12. jaker

    jaker trolling

    It's really up to you , how often do combo jobs come up and is this one of the good combo jobs that are hard to pass
     
  13. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Guest

    Then its your job. Fight for it. You need to ultimately worry about what is best for you and your long term future out at UPS. Not that other guys fellings
     
  14. P700slave

    P700slave Member

    Any federal law dealings with this situation would trump our contact. Read what the law says and go from there. Could be some gray area in the interpretation however. Good luck.
     
  15. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    ive decided to not pursue it, hes a good guy, had hip replacement yrs ago and is falling apart. I was surprised and upset at first but i have put a little thought into it
     
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  16. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    You're not a douche. You won the bid. End of story.
     
  17. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    With that thinking either way he's going to look like a douche to some people. He needs to get over what other people might think about him and stand up for his rights. We have a contract UPS should follow it everyday not just when it's convenient for them.

    I personally could careless about what other people think about me ass opinion are like A-- holes everyone has one about everything you need to be able to get over it and move on with what is best for you not someone else.
     
  18. Crazy Diamond

    Crazy Diamond Robot Extraordinaire

    Oh boy...

    You're not just an a s s h o l e, you're a judgemental pile of feces.

    Climb on down from your high horse, Dave.
     
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  19. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Guest

    How would taking that bid be different than bumping someone off a route? Do you think someone is a douche when they do that
     
  20. Crazy Diamond

    Crazy Diamond Robot Extraordinaire

    I don't like being bumped by senior drivers but, it's the business.

    I don't particularly enjoy bumping junior employees but, it's the business.

    I won't ask or expect for more than, what has been negotiated for me through the collective bargaining agreement.

    Likewise, I'll expect everyone around me to do the same.


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