Does it really make UPS money?
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I am sure even you can figure out who I am talking about. Do you need me to draw an editorial cartoon to illustrate my point?
QKRSTKR
Well-Known Member
Both these drivers will surely loose their jobs and most likely will not get them back till panel hearing. Both are bad accidents. If UPS has documented against these guys well enough, they may loose at panel. UPS isn't afraid of cutting guys like these loose. Makes me cringe though. Could be anyone anyday in this position. Runner or not. We all make mistakes. The stop sign one sounds strange though. Did he stop and just not see car coming? Blind spots in PC with doors closed suck. Blew a stop sign makes it sound as if he did just that, drive on thru without stopping.
Strange but we USE to have a guy like this around. Thought for somereason his hours were 9 to 4. UPS got him eventually. He bacame more harm and a burden than good.
Strange but we USE to have a guy like this around. Thought for somereason his hours were 9 to 4. UPS got him eventually. He bacame more harm and a burden than good.
barnyard
KTM rider
All of the 4.3 V6's that replaced the Fords are on the DNR list. They will all go to the crusher at some point this year. I am pretty darn sure there is a whole parking lot of POS to replace them.
Anonymous 10
Guest
Once again no disrespect Danny I was just confused and thought you were still an active driver.
Ps
I've got a long list of retiree's on my go to list for advice with ups problems as a steward and they are also friends that I like to check on.
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Dearest 9.5
Next I would suspect you would deny me the access to local papers, which of course print details of accidents, including the names of the drivers. The only information offered by the driver was the safety picture at UPS was flawless this year until these two crashes. I dont guess I could have accessed that information by any other means?
As a side note, I actually have kept in touch with corp safety. When you dont burn bridges, the relationships can be helpful. In my case, setting up a safety program for the bus ministry at the church. IT would seem that nationwide, there is nothing in place. And they have been very helpful, "off the clock"
So while I dont really know what to make of your comment, I must admit, I am surprised.
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Wow, your powers of moderation have gone to the head, me thinketh.
Next I would suspect you would deny me the access to local papers, which of course print details of accidents, including the names of the drivers. The only information offered by the driver was the safety picture at UPS was flawless this year until these two crashes. I dont guess I could have accessed that information by any other means?
As a side note, I actually have kept in touch with corp safety. When you dont burn bridges, the relationships can be helpful. In my case, setting up a safety program for the bus ministry at the church. IT would seem that nationwide, there is nothing in place. And they have been very helpful, "off the clock"
So while I dont really know what to make of your comment, I must admit, I am surprised.
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moreluck
golden ticket member
I, myself, AM NOT a UPS retiree, so I don't know what you are talking about.
cachsux
Wah
Any TOS violations in Danny`s post? No? Then thank you, move along.
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Cach
I believe that he thinks that retirees should not have an opinion, or any rights to knowledge of the internal workings at UPS. I happen to disagree. A large portion of my retirement is directly tied to the well being of UPS in the market place. So I very much do have a dog in the race.
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I believe that he thinks that retirees should not have an opinion, or any rights to knowledge of the internal workings at UPS. I happen to disagree. A large portion of my retirement is directly tied to the well being of UPS in the market place. So I very much do have a dog in the race.
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soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
I think the original goal behind intentionally deleting power steering from the older cars was to force higher-seniority drivers to retire earlier.
Once a 25 year veteran is no longer physically able to fight the equipment, he can be replaced with a new hire who makes $10 an hour less and only gets 2 weeks vacation per year instead of 6 or 7.
I have no doubt that some soulless bastard in a room with no air in it probably sat down and calculated it all down to the last cent on a spreadsheet.
barnyard
KTM rider
Except the high seniority guys are not the ones with the old worn out cars. They have seniority, so they get the newest ones. I lost my Ford to a higher seniority driver. She promptly burned up the clutch and it was crushed a couple of months later. According to my supe and the mechanics, we are not on any list to get new trucks, just that our current GMs are all set to be crushed. Obviously once crushed, they will have to be replaced, my suspicion is that they will not be replaced with new trucks, but more wore out GMs.
I hope I am wrong.....
hellfire
no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
nope,, your right,, in my center the top 5 get the creme of the crop cars,, newest automatics,, and you know what,, im glad for it,, Let yrs of experience dictate awards
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Unfortunately, there are some of us that have had to file grievances to be able to get even a package car that is lower to the ground. There were only 2 of the old 1000's in our building, and I had one of them. I believe that the center manager directed that be the case. I ended up having to file several greivances to be able to get in a newer vehicle, because of the problems with my knees. Number one in seniority, but stuck with the worst truck in the center.
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brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
I got the first power steering vehicle in our center in 95. I had 6 years in. I must have kissed butt back then.
Hmmm, I don't remember moderating you...
You never mentioned a newspaper (by all means, post a link!). You mentioned a "guy" at the center.
If I were a Teamster driver in that center and some "guy" was telling information to a non-UPSer who then posted it all over the internet.... well, I would be pretty pissed off.
I don't care that you posted it, hell I would have too. But the "guy" needs to be talked to. I had assumed it was the shop steward. He would need to be told to focus more on confidentiality and less on gossiping.
If instead it was a management member of Corp Safety, that person needs to be fired.
Mods can have opinions too. Get over yourself.
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Why, did I post names? The paper did. I did not. Names would not have added anything to the discussion. So their privacy was not endangered.
There is a difference between a non Upser and one that is retired. But I dont expect you would notice that.
So where is the beef with the post, except the ax to grind?
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There is a difference between a non Upser and one that is retired. But I dont expect you would notice that.
So where is the beef with the post, except the ax to grind?
d
I'm sorry, I thought I was clear.
I have no beef with the post, only with the "guy" talking too much. Do you not agree that the "guy" shouldn't be discussing this with you?
Catatonic
Nine Lives
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