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Does UPS shafting of it's managment healthcare make U accept they want to get us too?
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<blockquote data-quote="East coast navy" data-source="post: 1190072" data-attributes="member: 46214"><p><strong>Re: Does UPS shafting of it's managment healthcare make U accept they want to get us</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is the deal. </p><p></p><p>All the Cadillac style plans that have a large number of members are looking at a 40% tax from Obamacare. What I mean about cadillac is how much money Obamacare is saying a company or your self is contributing into a health plan and is it taxable. If it meets that mark you or the plan are looking at a tax. Up to 40%. The smaller groups are looking at a smaller tax or not at all. Like some of the locals that have there own plans. Also in the new TA it states if there is more funding needed for a failing health plan it will come out of the members raises and pension contributions. </p><p> </p><p>UPS saw this and that's why they asked for money to cover the tax. Then the union said will take it off your hands knowing CS plan was all ready in jeopardy so hall and the negotiation committe (most are CS members) thought it would be better if number would go 50,000 insured members to 190,000 insured members.</p><p></p><p> So how is this a great contract? It isn't. </p><p></p><p>That's why 18 local and rider contracts were voted theirs down. 75% of them because they don't want to go into CS. Then three union leaders of the largest unions in the US (Hoffa is one of them) wrote a letter to tell Obama, I'm sorry I mean they were begging Obama to cut the union insurance plans a break on the tax. Saying that it will kill the 40 hour work plan. </p><p></p><p>Now here is the twist. First, Obamacare got a extension to 2015 instead of kicking in to 2014. Second, congress might not pass the funding for Obamacare, which would mean that Obamacare is a no deal. Now IBT and some locals want to jam this crap contract down our throats so it will pass then wait until Obamacare will pass or fail to see if we as union members are screwed. I don't now about you but I don't like it when someone gambles my money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="East coast navy, post: 1190072, member: 46214"] [b]Re: Does UPS shafting of it's managment healthcare make U accept they want to get us[/b] Here is the deal. All the Cadillac style plans that have a large number of members are looking at a 40% tax from Obamacare. What I mean about cadillac is how much money Obamacare is saying a company or your self is contributing into a health plan and is it taxable. If it meets that mark you or the plan are looking at a tax. Up to 40%. The smaller groups are looking at a smaller tax or not at all. Like some of the locals that have there own plans. Also in the new TA it states if there is more funding needed for a failing health plan it will come out of the members raises and pension contributions. UPS saw this and that's why they asked for money to cover the tax. Then the union said will take it off your hands knowing CS plan was all ready in jeopardy so hall and the negotiation committe (most are CS members) thought it would be better if number would go 50,000 insured members to 190,000 insured members. So how is this a great contract? It isn't. That's why 18 local and rider contracts were voted theirs down. 75% of them because they don't want to go into CS. Then three union leaders of the largest unions in the US (Hoffa is one of them) wrote a letter to tell Obama, I'm sorry I mean they were begging Obama to cut the union insurance plans a break on the tax. Saying that it will kill the 40 hour work plan. Now here is the twist. First, Obamacare got a extension to 2015 instead of kicking in to 2014. Second, congress might not pass the funding for Obamacare, which would mean that Obamacare is a no deal. Now IBT and some locals want to jam this crap contract down our throats so it will pass then wait until Obamacare will pass or fail to see if we as union members are screwed. I don't now about you but I don't like it when someone gambles my money. [/QUOTE]
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