DOT violations

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by iunnoimjustaFT, Mar 23, 2016.

  1. What is considered a violation, how do I avoid having them if I'm instructed to have them. Today I clocked off with 1 minute remaining, after instructed by a sup to stay out an additional 10 minutes delivering, which I did. :sad-very:
     
  2. upschuck

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    We had a guy fined several thousand dollars because he violated them. Feeder drivers sit on side of road all the time, when they run out of hours, and wait for sup to come get them. Don't know how that would be coded to show you not driving, in PC.
     
  3. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut The One Who Knocks

    It's you're respsonbility to know the DOT rules and follow them, don't let management instruct you to violate them, it's your ass on the line if you do. Best to learn them and not count on your sup to keep you from paying a huge fine and getting a warning letter and possibly fired.
    https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/395.3

    Never drive without 10 hours off duty, including other jobs.
    Never drive a vehicle after 14 hours on duty.
    Never drive after 60 hours on duty in a 7 day period.
    If you drive over 12 hours or over 100 miles as the crow flies from your center, you are required to to take a 30 minute break ending before the 8th hour on duty.
     
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  4. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Return to building at your 14, O71 Paid Travel for the trip back to the building.
     
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  5. upschuck

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    Saw that code before, wondered what it was for. I am sure the higher ups don't like that for PC.
     
  6. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Officially:hate it

    Unofficially:Use it.

    There are other uses for it besides going over 14. Mostly for when cover drivers run satellite routes and have to drive up.
     
  7. Says not to operate a vehicle after 14 hours, payed travel would still be violating DOT?
     
  8. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    You're not operating the vehicle at that point. The supervisor would be.
     
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  9. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    ...and I would be filing a grievance on it.
     
  10. upschuck

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    For what? Sup working? Not going anywhere since an hourly is there too.
     
  11. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Good luck with that.
     
  12. Oh I missed that part of the explanation makes sense now.
     
  13. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Who is being trained?
    That's the only time, absent an "act of god", that supervisors can drive a vehicle.
    Over dispatching does not qualify.
     
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  14. I thought this be allowed considering any other union workers would either be gone or maxed out on their DOT as well. I'm definitely not going to walk back to the hub to clock off.
     
  15. upschuck

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    Nobody has been "harmed", no award given.
     
  16. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    No, taken the ride back on the clock.
    I, as your steward, will file for the time it took the supervisor to drive your truck back, absent an "act of god".
     
  17. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I could have done the work.
     
  18. upschuck

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    But a union person is being paid for that work.
     
  19. Bubblehead

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    No they are being paid to ride.
    They aren't performing the "work" of driving the vehicle, the Supe is.
     
  20. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    By your rational, it would then be OK to have a driver on TAW, with a 5lb weight restriction, ride along its a supe for 30 days?
    I don't think l so.

    I'm splitting hairs and would not do so if we weren't talking about dispatching package cars with 14 hrs plus.
    It's inexcusable and I will fight it to the Nth degree.
     
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