Dreaded Pension Funding Level Letter

JonFrum

Member
The crimes of half a century ago are history. I hope everyone involved got the maximum punishment. But those crimes don't explain the Fund's current poor financial condition. Indeed, acording to this 2004 New York Times article, the Fund actually did well on those shady loans to Vegas gangsters.
Starting in the early 1960's, the fund loaned tens of millions of dollars for investments in Las Vegas casinos, including the Desert Inn, Caesars Palace, Stardust, Circus Circus, the Landmark Hotel and the Aladdin Hotel, according to a history by Edwin H. Stier, a former federal prosecutor hired by the union as part of its efforts to clean house.

The loans in those days typically involved a front man who signed the papers and a crime family raking off cash behind the scenes. The loan approval process involved kickbacks, threats and, in at least one case, a kidnapping. By the time Hoffa disappeared in 1975, the Central States pension fund had loaned an estimated $600 million to people connected with organized crime, according to Mr. Stier, who resigned his union appointment in April after questioning the union's ongoing commitment to rooting out corruption.

But many of the loans did serve their intended purpose, making money to pay for Teamsters' retirement benefits. The hotels, casinos and other real estate projects, not all of which were connected to organized crime, were generally profitable, according to Mr. Stier, and before his disappearance Hoffa saw to it that his loans were repaid.

By 1977, after years of indictments, prosecutions, Congressional hearings and murders, federal regulators pressured the Central States trustees to resign and turn over the fund's assets to an independent money manager. The 1982 consent decree reduced the trustees' powers permanently, requiring the pension fund to choose an outside fiduciary from America's largest 20 banks, insurance companies and investment advisory firms.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/15/business/15teamster.html

[Note: Disregard the $77 million uncollectible loan mentioned in the article. There was no such loan.]
 

SWORDFISH

Well-Known Member
State taxes are self pay on a quarterly basis. Health insurance is also self pay.

I figure $4K/month plus $1.2K/month SSI when the time comes should allow me to leave my 401k untouched until I am required to draw from it.

I plan on being debt free when I retire.

Jon, I don't have exact numbers, but there are at least 15-20 retirees in my center alone who fall in that category, some drawing as much as $6K/month in pension. Our more recent retirees are drawing $4K/month, which is what I expect to receive when it is my turn in 9 years and is a bit higher that what I net now. This could be one of the reasons why our plan is in critical status.

Our guys on the west coast also take about $4k a month. Upstate, you net less than 4k a month? Do you guys in NY get unlimited 8hr requests or what?:peaceful:
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
Is the parking lot at your center paved in gold with a chocolate fountain in the middle? I started this week with 3 hours OT on Monday.

We have a driver who averages 6.25 hours worked per day and another who is a little closer to 7 hours worked per day. Most of the guys are in and gone by 1900 with a 0915 start. I am usually gone by 1815.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
Its a big deal in our center to. They get us as close to it as they posibly can.

We were talking with the PDS before start time yesterday and he told us that 40% of the drivers in the Northeast District are at or over 9.5 daily.

Perhaps things will change but for now our center manager is adamant about no over 9.5's.
 
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