I believe the driver helper pay depends upon whether or not you are already a UPSer. In Local 710, you get 11.76 per hour to driver help if you're a UPSer, but if you're an outside hire I think you only make 9.50 an hour or so. I think the outside hires get really screwed, considering the short hours, low pay, and lack of overtime. However, it can be pretty lucrative for someone who's already a pter. I mean, as a preloader, anything over 5 hours is overtime pay, and when you hit more than 8 hours total for the day you get overtime pay on the driver help scale (well, that's how it is in 710 anyway, at least it was that way back when I worked in Urbana for peak of 2005). During peak, we usually work at least 6 hours in the am, and then driver helping nets you at least another 4-6 hours. So, I can make an hour of overtime pay in the am, two hours of regular driver help pay, and then another two-four hours of overtime driver help pay. Yeah, it really kicks your a** and is absolutely exhausting, but the money is nice. Still wish it was more though...