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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 552486" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>One of the hardest things as a steward was to get someones job back after being told to do something, and refusing. Regardless of the situation. We were told to work as instructed, then file.</p><p> </p><p>The article that Sober posted is one more nail in the coffin of why the contract is pretty much worthless as a legal document.</p><p> </p><p>Most drivers would read that article, and assume they were covered under the contract to be able to refuse. One thing I have learned is that if that gets to an arbitrator, usually you lose. They take a dim view of insubordination by workers.</p><p> </p><p>What Tie said about firing an employee is very true. They fire you several times knowing full well they will "negotiate" with the union for a couple of days or weeks off, then back to work. That couple of days or weeks off was all they wanted to do in the first place, but because of a dance contract with the union, they have to allow the union to win at getting your job back. So they are very liberal with terminations. Much more so than many other places.</p><p> </p><p>And that is why terminations and warning letters really dont mean all that much at UPS. Kinda like a 30 year to life sentence in the judicial arena, that really means you can be back in about 4 years. Maybe less with good behavior.</p><p> </p><p>As far as the statement made by walking off without pants, that will be the cause of his dismissal if it is actually upheld. Very unprofessional. And a case can be made that the driver at the time was combative and illogical in his dealings with the sup. He really hurt himself by acting out like a three year old. While funny, very childish.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 552486, member: 484"] One of the hardest things as a steward was to get someones job back after being told to do something, and refusing. Regardless of the situation. We were told to work as instructed, then file. The article that Sober posted is one more nail in the coffin of why the contract is pretty much worthless as a legal document. Most drivers would read that article, and assume they were covered under the contract to be able to refuse. One thing I have learned is that if that gets to an arbitrator, usually you lose. They take a dim view of insubordination by workers. What Tie said about firing an employee is very true. They fire you several times knowing full well they will "negotiate" with the union for a couple of days or weeks off, then back to work. That couple of days or weeks off was all they wanted to do in the first place, but because of a dance contract with the union, they have to allow the union to win at getting your job back. So they are very liberal with terminations. Much more so than many other places. And that is why terminations and warning letters really dont mean all that much at UPS. Kinda like a 30 year to life sentence in the judicial arena, that really means you can be back in about 4 years. Maybe less with good behavior. As far as the statement made by walking off without pants, that will be the cause of his dismissal if it is actually upheld. Very unprofessional. And a case can be made that the driver at the time was combative and illogical in his dealings with the sup. He really hurt himself by acting out like a three year old. While funny, very childish. d [/QUOTE]
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