DUP

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by kingOFchester, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Lets say you are at XXX Main street and can't find 1 of the 4 packages on the 5000 shelf. You deliver the three and later that day you find the 4th package on the 7000 shelf.....do you take credit for another stop or do you put it in as a Dup?

    I was questioned today why I went back to a stop and didn't sheet as a DUP.
     
  2. badpal.

    badpal. avoiding brown kool-aid

    If I have to return to a stop later in the day to deliver a pkg I couldn't find then I sheet it as another stop. I only use DUP if I find it right away or if I'm a block or 2 away from the stop.
     
  3. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    If it is in the wrong section it's another delivery. Same with if a customer requests I come back that's attempt #2 if they are not home so it's another stop.
     
  4. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    I don't use the DUP function never have and never will. If I can't find it and have to go back it's another stop no matter if it two block or 12 miles. However I do use the Left at function when delivering a number of packages to the main off of a apartment/condo complex or assisted living building.
     
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    It is a duplicate stop if it is my error---it is an additional stop if I am asked to go back or if consignee meets me on road.
     
  6. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Either way I still don't use the DUP function. If I have to go back it's another stop.
     
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Today I had a pkg for Walmart that I couldn't find. I found it when I delivered Sam's Club. I sheeted it as dup stop when I went back to Walmart, which was less than 10 minutes after the first delivery. Had I sheeted it as an additional stop my mgt team would have a solid case against me for padding stops.
     
  8. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    So it being on the wrong shelf would constitute it as "not my error"?
     
  9. brownelf

    brownelf Active Member

    Had 5 DUP stops today, loader was out drinking last nite apparently. Unless someone brings it to me, or we meet and trade misroutes (happens alot) it's a DUP stop in this area. I'm not going to risk my job for a few extra minutes on the daily report.
     
  10. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Ok, got another one for ya,

    You have a NDA, NI1, later that day you are delivering on the street and you notice the customer is now home......DUP or not?
    A business has a sign "will return after 2"....do you sheet it as closed, then return after 2?
     
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You have a NDA, NI1, later that day you are delivering on the street and you notice the customer is now home......DUP or not?

    Duplicate stop.

    A business has a sign "will return after 2"....do you sheet it as closed, then return after 2?

    You can sheet it as closed and then resheet as a dup stop or you can leave it in EDD and sheet it after 2. If is NDA SVR you should sheet to make sure you beat the commit and then resheet as dup stop when you deliver it.
     
  12. brownelf

    brownelf Active Member

    those are all DUP, at least in my world. As far as the business is concerned, I'd make one attempt after 2, showing it as closed before 5 would set off red flags here.
     
  13. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I don't use DUP ever. I will continue to work this way until told otherwise.
     
  14. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    There shouldn't even be a DUP button. Like I said I don't use the DUP function never have never will if I have to go back it's another stop. Just like going back to a make another deliver attempt at a address I already been at because the center says I have too it another stop and it Ni2 or Ni3 if they are not there it's not a DUP so why would going back to any other stop for any reason be considered DUP.
     
  15. rocket man

    rocket man Well-Known Member

    it depends del to house then you get back to truck oh one more pkg ill hit dup at a commercial stop illl hit dup mcman woman ect if im there
     
  16. upsman2940

    upsman2940 New Member

    The certification that they gave us stated a premium pkg that you reattempt is a new stop. A pkg that you can't find on your car but locate later is a duplicate. One that was a miss load brought to you later is a new stop. Oms sends you back for 2nd att or for a address correction is a new stop. But I hit duplicate cuz I don't care about their planned days and that takes all the guessing out of it.
     
  17. Re-Raise

    Re-Raise Well-Known Member

    This is how I do it.
     
  18. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    It simply doesn't matter to me.
    My allowances are so jacked up that the only way I stay under 9.5 is to under dispatch me.
    I haven't dispatched since peak.
    I've had the division manager, the center manager, and both on cars ride with me and the best we did was an hour and half over.
    None of them can tell me where we went wrong, nor do they seem to have the juice to fix it.
    So if they tell me to record them as duplicate, who cares?
    Not me, duplicate it is.
     
  19. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    First one is the second delivery attempt on that same package it's not a dup stop. Second sheet as closed and come back the next day.
     
  20. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Unless someone brings it out to me it's a dup. Why risk your job for a couple clicks of bonus?