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EEOC wins right to review UPS' no-beard policy nationally
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<blockquote data-quote="unsmoothcriminal" data-source="post: 670848" data-attributes="member: 27753"><p>Pastafarian... nice, you looked at the site enough to enough know what we're called!!! i'm impressed! </p><p></p><p>but to seriously reply to this thread, as i was discussing this issue with my superiors the other day... according to my center manager, there was a time when UPS (at least locally i presume) allowed neatly trimmed beards for management and drivers alike, but as was stated earlier one persons view of "neat" is going to be someone else view of "oh my, shave that wolverine off your chin!" so there in lies the problem, and why i can see the reasons for upholding the rules... </p><p></p><p>now, the topic at hand was in regards to religion, and as a Pastafarian, i truely believe in the freedom of such... but i also think that since the 1960's, "equal rights" has become "special rights" - i agree with sober completely- if you subscribe to such a religion, then don't seek employment somewhere that has a no-beard policy, what if a 7th day Adventist applied to deliver air? would they be allowed to not work saturdays? no... they would either have to work saturdays or take another position... and every 7th day Adventist i know always seeks employment somewhere with saturdays off, it just comes with the faith...</p><p></p><p>now look at from the point of view of safety (since we're all UPSers... we should ALWAYS look at it like that) if you work at certain factories you have to be clean shaven/short cut hair for safety reasons, (ie, hair gets caught in machines... burned by molten metals, or gets into foods...) people with beards either shave or seek employment elsewhere... </p><p></p><p>those are just my 2 cents on the subject... can't wait to see how it turns out, maybe one day i'll be able to grow out my facial hair once more!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="unsmoothcriminal, post: 670848, member: 27753"] Pastafarian... nice, you looked at the site enough to enough know what we're called!!! i'm impressed! but to seriously reply to this thread, as i was discussing this issue with my superiors the other day... according to my center manager, there was a time when UPS (at least locally i presume) allowed neatly trimmed beards for management and drivers alike, but as was stated earlier one persons view of "neat" is going to be someone else view of "oh my, shave that wolverine off your chin!" so there in lies the problem, and why i can see the reasons for upholding the rules... now, the topic at hand was in regards to religion, and as a Pastafarian, i truely believe in the freedom of such... but i also think that since the 1960's, "equal rights" has become "special rights" - i agree with sober completely- if you subscribe to such a religion, then don't seek employment somewhere that has a no-beard policy, what if a 7th day Adventist applied to deliver air? would they be allowed to not work saturdays? no... they would either have to work saturdays or take another position... and every 7th day Adventist i know always seeks employment somewhere with saturdays off, it just comes with the faith... now look at from the point of view of safety (since we're all UPSers... we should ALWAYS look at it like that) if you work at certain factories you have to be clean shaven/short cut hair for safety reasons, (ie, hair gets caught in machines... burned by molten metals, or gets into foods...) people with beards either shave or seek employment elsewhere... those are just my 2 cents on the subject... can't wait to see how it turns out, maybe one day i'll be able to grow out my facial hair once more! [/QUOTE]
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