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EEOC wins right to review UPS' no-beard policy nationally
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<blockquote data-quote="J WALES" data-source="post: 676615" data-attributes="member: 28098"><p>I work in the office. We have a no facial hair policy as well. Except mustaches. I have never met the first customer. For several years, I had a goatee, I was hired with it, badge has it and no issues. Only some old timers giving me nasty looks when I smile going down the hall. But they are the same ones that don't know how to say hi when you pass them anyway. Now I grew a beard. It's trimmed neatly. What's the issue? UPS as to adapt to the times. Every other man you see has facial hair. Watch TV, go to the store. Our Whiteboard Commercial guy has hair long enough to put in a ponytail. Even the Whiteboard ads on UPSers show men with beards....We are selling hats with tears and rips in them in our new apparel catalog. I know it's weird, but times have changed. Would you rather have your customer ride in an elevator with a male UPS employee with a nicely trimmed beard, or a UPS employee that just came in from huffing down a couple cigs on the smoking block and smells like an ashtray? We are focused on the wrong issues here....</p><p> </p><p>Face it, some men look better with neatly trimmed facial hair. Some dont. I am actualy down right ugly without my beard! UPS needs to relax this beard policy for good. It's too old and outdated. A man can be neat about facial hair. It's also a proven fact that people feel relaxed around men with beards. They are not bad guys, they are mostly down to earth guys....crew cuts and clean shaven faces and ties and suits don't win contracts....being friendly, honest and trustworthy do. A person who looks and acts uptight and like they are better than anyone and frowns upon a fellow man because he has a neatly trimmed beard can intimidate our customers and our employees. UPS should think about these things.....our competitors are taking our business away from us....as well as our good employees....UPS must face the facts....Does Home Depot have any trouble with beards, does Lowes, does Costco? Check out the annual reports for these companies......I have to say the billions they make are more from great customer service, being nice, friendly and on the same level with their customers, rather than worrying about grown men having beards!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J WALES, post: 676615, member: 28098"] I work in the office. We have a no facial hair policy as well. Except mustaches. I have never met the first customer. For several years, I had a goatee, I was hired with it, badge has it and no issues. Only some old timers giving me nasty looks when I smile going down the hall. But they are the same ones that don't know how to say hi when you pass them anyway. Now I grew a beard. It's trimmed neatly. What's the issue? UPS as to adapt to the times. Every other man you see has facial hair. Watch TV, go to the store. Our Whiteboard Commercial guy has hair long enough to put in a ponytail. Even the Whiteboard ads on UPSers show men with beards....We are selling hats with tears and rips in them in our new apparel catalog. I know it's weird, but times have changed. Would you rather have your customer ride in an elevator with a male UPS employee with a nicely trimmed beard, or a UPS employee that just came in from huffing down a couple cigs on the smoking block and smells like an ashtray? We are focused on the wrong issues here.... Face it, some men look better with neatly trimmed facial hair. Some dont. I am actualy down right ugly without my beard! UPS needs to relax this beard policy for good. It's too old and outdated. A man can be neat about facial hair. It's also a proven fact that people feel relaxed around men with beards. They are not bad guys, they are mostly down to earth guys....crew cuts and clean shaven faces and ties and suits don't win contracts....being friendly, honest and trustworthy do. A person who looks and acts uptight and like they are better than anyone and frowns upon a fellow man because he has a neatly trimmed beard can intimidate our customers and our employees. UPS should think about these things.....our competitors are taking our business away from us....as well as our good employees....UPS must face the facts....Does Home Depot have any trouble with beards, does Lowes, does Costco? Check out the annual reports for these companies......I have to say the billions they make are more from great customer service, being nice, friendly and on the same level with their customers, rather than worrying about grown men having beards! [/QUOTE]
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