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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 942482" data-attributes="member: 14668"><p>I agree that we should not get militarily involved by pre-emptively bombing Iran.</p><p></p><p>However, we cannot ignore the <em>reality</em> that....when push comes to shove...Israel <em>will </em>act pre-emptively. If they feel that their very survival as a nation is at stake (and when your nation is less than 50 miles wide, your survival <em>is</em> at stake when it comes to nukes) they will eliminate the threat<strong> by any means necessary</strong>, <em>regardless</em> of world opinion and <em>regardless</em> of whether the USA approves of their actions or not.</p><p></p><p>Remember that we are talking about a nation that was founded by Holocaust survivors. We are talking about a nation that is <em>totally surrounded</em> by hostile governments that are or have been committed to its complete destruction. We are talking about a nation that has had to fight for its very survival since its birth in 1948. And we are talking about a nation that could in fact be effectively "wiped off of the map" by a mere 2 or 3 well placed, crude nuclear weapons.</p><p></p><p>Israel does not have the luxury of <em>responding</em> to a nuclear attack by Iran or its Hezbollah proxies in Lebanon and Gaza. They have to <em>prevent</em> it, using whatever means are at their disposal. And unfortunately, those means pretty much boil down to nuclear weapons.</p><p></p><p>My opinion is that we should <em>not</em> attack Iran ourselves, but we should provide Israel with the ability to do so <em>without</em> resorting to a pre-emptive <em>nuclear</em> strike. This would mean stealth aircraft that have the range to reach Iran and bunker-buster bombs that have the ability to penetrate hardened underground sites. Otherwise, Israel will have no choice but to use nuclear missiles of their own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soberups, post: 942482, member: 14668"] I agree that we should not get militarily involved by pre-emptively bombing Iran. However, we cannot ignore the [I]reality[/I] that....when push comes to shove...Israel [I]will [/I]act pre-emptively. If they feel that their very survival as a nation is at stake (and when your nation is less than 50 miles wide, your survival [I]is[/I] at stake when it comes to nukes) they will eliminate the threat[B] by any means necessary[/B], [I]regardless[/I] of world opinion and [I]regardless[/I] of whether the USA approves of their actions or not. Remember that we are talking about a nation that was founded by Holocaust survivors. We are talking about a nation that is [I]totally surrounded[/I] by hostile governments that are or have been committed to its complete destruction. We are talking about a nation that has had to fight for its very survival since its birth in 1948. And we are talking about a nation that could in fact be effectively "wiped off of the map" by a mere 2 or 3 well placed, crude nuclear weapons. Israel does not have the luxury of [I]responding[/I] to a nuclear attack by Iran or its Hezbollah proxies in Lebanon and Gaza. They have to [I]prevent[/I] it, using whatever means are at their disposal. And unfortunately, those means pretty much boil down to nuclear weapons. My opinion is that we should [I]not[/I] attack Iran ourselves, but we should provide Israel with the ability to do so [I]without[/I] resorting to a pre-emptive [I]nuclear[/I] strike. This would mean stealth aircraft that have the range to reach Iran and bunker-buster bombs that have the ability to penetrate hardened underground sites. Otherwise, Israel will have no choice but to use nuclear missiles of their own. [/QUOTE]
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