Except for the Boobus, Solar Power Not being Laughed At

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by wkmac, Jun 10, 2013.

  1. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Solar panels could destroy U.S. utilities, according to U.S. utilities
  2. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    I would like nothing more than for renewable power options to become affordable to the average home owner such that each and every home is producing its own energy lacking connection to any kind of grid. The problem still is that solar and wind energy is expensive to harness with little gain. Maybe we will start seeing some movement toward more efficient wind generators and solar panels such that we can reliably live off of those sources without severely crippling our way of life. I still have a hard time seeing that occuring in my lifetime, but then again one never knows.
  3. roadrunner2012

    roadrunner2012 Four hours in the mod queue for a news link Troll

    I wonder who has the means to invest millions/billions into research that may not return any benefits for decades?

    Big Government? Yep, that's who.
  4. Upsmule

    Upsmule Well-Known Member

    Sadly that mentality is the problem with the current economy!

    In spite of the historical evidence that inflated bureaucracies fail and go bankrupt. Ugh....never mind.
  5. 804brown

    804brown Well-Known Member

    First lets stop subsidizing oil, gas, coal and nuclear. Then the real costs of these dirty fuels will be felt and the alternative fuels will be a better bet.
  6. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Exactly. We don't need to subsidize alternative energy but stop giving market advantage to monopolized hydrocarbons. Funny how some people get stuck only on one side of the welfare picture while ignoring the other. Stop externalizing costs onto the public sector and I dare say the 1% would not be what it is and all by the self regulation of natural market forces. The 1% became such as a result of gov't and not in spite of.

    If we are talking about a large national, centralized, even monopolized/cartel grid, then yes Brett's point IMO has validity for a number of reasons and actually I'd tend to agree with his point. However I'm still solidly in the off grid, decentralized camp, in fact going there myself in the near future and thus much more to say on this subject but I'll leave it there for now.
  7. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    What the hell is a Boobus??? Mass transit for Casper?
  8. roadrunner2012

    roadrunner2012 Four hours in the mod queue for a news link Troll

  9. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    It's short for the scientific term Boobus Americanus created by H.L. Mencken.
  10. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    The oil companies do get federal subsidies but the states tax heavily at the pump. I don't know the raw numbers but its probably a wash, or with the extra taxes we pay even more than is spent on subsidies.
  11. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    For all the others who didn't know what this was either....I am not the only one!!

    Boobus Americanus [TABLE="class: post-message, width: 100%"]
    [TD="width: 1%"][/TD]
    [TD="width: 99%"]a term originally coined by H.L. Mencken

    and the urban dictionary now defines it as


    Complacent, lazy & stupid US citizen who votes for politicians based upon information proffered by government shills in the mainstream media, or for other vacuous reasons. This people not only doesn't understand the concept of "limited government", but has never read The Constitution nor The Bill of Rights. He also believes his vote counts and that politicians are honest.

  12. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Urban Dictionary is such a reputable source :P
  13. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Of the gazillion listings available.....I took one of the first ones. You can probably find a million other meanings..... At least I don' think it's a ghost transit anymore. I could've left this world not knowing and I would've been fine!!

    Time is better spent eating a Nutty Buddy !!!
  14. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    The taxes at the pump pay for the roads which in turn help creates a market in which the product that the oil company sells will produce a demand. So even that money ultimately is all spent to the benefit of the oil company. Not to mention all that asphalt is petroleum based. And let's not even discuss all the money spent across the globe that insures the US Oil cartel maintains it's oil dominance all the while keeping the dollar as premier currency to the benefit of banking interests. From using the military to maintain control or the Navy to maintain shipping lanes. Crony capitalism at it's best. There's a reason it's all to big to fail. It was set up that way!
  15. 804brown

    804brown Well-Known Member

  16. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Nothing is to big to fail .
    Budget cuts could cripple a Navy , thus removing that element from the equation .
    Other countries are talking with China about replacing the US Dollar as the world's currency .
  17. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    That may be true but when you have centralized power in the controls of an entity that holds a monopoly of force and all are compelled to support it's actions, those "bigs" can go a very long way before the ability to continue to sustain it just becomes to overwhelming even for those in power. It's also what attracts the "bigs" to pump huge amounts of money into it's elective process in order to drive an outcome of which they benefit.

    Look at the massive debt that had to be created to keep the dollar in position as reserve currency when the collapse in 08' happened. And who is most of that debt saddled on to repay? And who really benefited? Externalizing costs while insuring future private profits.

    As to other countries talking with China about currency, why do you think all the saber rattling towards China has been taking place. China is hacking computers is the excuse? You mean China might be doing what the US Gov't is doing through Prism? What's wrong, can't stand the competition? Here's a real kicker for you. Could history several hundred years from now view China as hero and USA as villain and do so through the lens of Liberty and Freedom? Don't shutter at the prospect as history can be funny that way.

    Part of Qaddafi's downfall was creating a Pan Africa Monetary Fund with the rest of Africa thus by passing the IMF and the World Bank while at the same time backing the whole thing with a gold backed Dinar currency. That would have gone a long way in kicking out the legs of the debt based hegemony of the global banking cartel and likely brought down the dollar as reserve currency. Could history also show a positive side of the madman from Libya?

    This goes to the heart of Carl Von Clausewitz's famous saying:

  18. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

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  19. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Where you been?