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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 517500" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>D,</p><p> </p><p>I'll just respond by posting the remarks of textynn to an <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/sanchez-paul-obama-tortur_n_188272.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">article </span></a>concerning President Obama and his position on torture.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Sometimes standing up involves being an admitted real pain in the arse and pushing people to look in places they don't want too. My generation forgot the lessons we learned from our Vietnam and then Watergate years and sadly turned around and allowed it all to happen again so to speak. Bush doubled down on the debt and advanced the lunacy of Empire and now Obama is following in his tracks for the most part. Tip of the hat to President Obama for his recent moves relating to Cuba however and that is a hopeful sign. </p><p> </p><p>President Bush came into office much like President Obama having said many similar things. Good things that in general principle most people agree with. However, Presidents are figureheads who become trapped inside a bubble of other people's making who want to benefit themselves rather than the country ie the people and it goes for both sides. The only way for any President to know what the people really want is for us to pop that bubble.</p><p> </p><p>I'll just leave it at that!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 517500, member: 2189"] D, I'll just respond by posting the remarks of textynn to an [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/sanchez-paul-obama-tortur_n_188272.html"][COLOR=red]article [/COLOR][/URL]concerning President Obama and his position on torture. Sometimes standing up involves being an admitted real pain in the arse and pushing people to look in places they don't want too. My generation forgot the lessons we learned from our Vietnam and then Watergate years and sadly turned around and allowed it all to happen again so to speak. Bush doubled down on the debt and advanced the lunacy of Empire and now Obama is following in his tracks for the most part. Tip of the hat to President Obama for his recent moves relating to Cuba however and that is a hopeful sign. President Bush came into office much like President Obama having said many similar things. Good things that in general principle most people agree with. However, Presidents are figureheads who become trapped inside a bubble of other people's making who want to benefit themselves rather than the country ie the people and it goes for both sides. The only way for any President to know what the people really want is for us to pop that bubble. I'll just leave it at that! :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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