FDX future vs. UPS

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by BrownShark, Dec 24, 2007.

  1. BrownShark

    BrownShark Banned

    So much for those UPSer's who swear FEDEX is eating our lunch. Looks like FEDEX is having their lunch money taken!!


  2. Fredless

    Fredless APWA Hater

    Brazenbrown = pwnt.

  3. satellitedriver

    satellitedriver Moderator Staff Member

    I am slow.
    What is pwnt?
  4. brownrodster

    brownrodster New Member

    It is an alternate spelling and or pronunciation of the word "owned." To own someone means you not only defeated them but in doing so you also embarassed them.

    pwnt could be pronounced as 'owned', 'poned', 'pon't,' or anything else you dream up.

    The word 'pwnt' is from the internet gamer language known as 'leet', '1337', '31337', 'uber leet', 'uber1337', etc...
  5. edd_tv

    edd_tv Cardboard picker upper

    isnt owned only one more letter than pwnt?
  6. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    If ups didnt have to make a 6.1 billion payment to cs, they could have bought fedex.
  7. TSG92

    TSG92 New Member

    We should have bought them when they were little.

    FAVREFAN Member

    Interesting.....last time I checked......Fedex(FDX) had a market cap of $29Billion still even after being severely punished by Wall St. in recent weeks. We are around $78Billion. $6.1Billion wouldn't buy much of FDX.
    Doesn't look so good for the other guys from here on out. If the Teamsters can get in there full blown......we would be on a more level playing field and we could dominate them. Not like they are ever going away. Just much less profitable if they get unionized.
  9. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    Yeah, but that wouldn't be cool.
  10. DorkHead

    DorkHead Active Member

    All these thoughts are good. But remember, the stronger our competition gets, the better our bargaining position gets!! Just another thought
  11. brazenbrown

    brazenbrown New Member

    Owned by the likes of you, Yeah right!:wink2:

    And what do you stand for other than using a cute slang word to try and assert yourself in some kind of bizarre fashion??
  12. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    They could have bought 1/4 of fedex, intergrated the ground and air. Then think of all of the money ups would get for selling off unwanted land, buildings, trailers, tractors, etc. Then they could sell off fedex sorry trade solutions, and their new ltl service, but keep the fedex freight. So after all of that, yes ups would have to take on some debt, but they could totally do it. Then ups needs to purchase TNT, or some other major worldwide logistic company to compete with dhl in the worldwide mail and logistic area. Its possible.

  13. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Ups had air in the 1930's. Our founder of this company wanted to continue with the service through the depression, but other people in the company thought that was a terrible idea. The service was then gone. If Ups would have kept it going, there probably would never have been a fedex as we know it today. Something else, at one time ups was also looking at dhl to help their international position, but like anything else, they didnt think it was a "good" idea. If you look at fedex, and dhl, each company is about 30-40 years old? Each have done very well, so has ups, but one has to start looking at why fedex and dhl have been able to get so big so fast, while ups has taken 100 years to do it. Each of them have used weaknesses in OUR company and built their systems around them. What is ups going to do in the next 20 years to grow our volume and maybe venture out into other interests. I personally think ups should buy tnt, and start getting into the mail business. How about paypal, that would have been a greqat business to snag up, would have gone great with ups capital, since we will be seeing more and more online shopping in the next few years. I think ups is going to have to start being like GE, where they are in many different core areas. Its interesting to think about.
  14. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    As I recall the reason that idea died was that most of dhl's international deals were done by handshake, no paper trails could be found. Also dhl way back then is not the same as dhl today, they were only a document shipper.
  15. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Its interesting to think about if dhl was bought by ups, and how different the international scene would be today.
  16. Fredless

    Fredless APWA Hater

    Didn't say I did. Good reading comprehension skills.

    FAVREFAN Member

    Many good points here. I agree to a point. But we are allready diversifying into alot of other segments, total company solutions and logistics, capital and financing, etc........When you are on top, there is nothing to do but lose market share eventually and that is why FDX and DHL have grown quicker. Compare apples to apples though. UPS was nothing 30 years ago either. We were a grain of sand compared to our size today. We have grown exponentially.
    As far as buying 1/4 of FDX. Can't happen. Would need a hostil takeover with a major majority of shares bought. FDX would never let it happen nor would the U.S. government........Anti-trust laws. We can and should coexist prosperously. We need to watch DHl and inhibit their growth. Later.
  18. Cole

    Cole New Member

    very true Casey did have the idea for moving pkgs by plane pre depression, and it was shot down, which eventually led the way for FDX. Then UPS wanted to jump on it.
  19. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    some truth. we actually started an overnight delivery service in 1929. It ran approximately 3 years before we discontinued the service. I don't think we had a lot of demand for the service during the depression.

    We later started blue label air which never took off like fdx overnight did.

    We had the idea, fred had the marketing to convince customers they needed this service.