Feederdrivermack
Active Member
I am not sure that is the case anymore. I have seen stamps on nda,2da packages that show there was a charge by that department.
FedEx bigger than UPS?
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I am not sure that is the case anymore. I have seen stamps on nda,2da packages that show there was a charge by that department.
Feederdrivermack
Active Member
I dont think fingerpointing blame on the union evertime there is there is a problem is a solution either. People are buying the Jap cars for a reason other than price and we all know it. Look at how much the US imports compared to what it exports, you would be amazed.(ex Walmart)
Treegrower
Well-Known Member
Not at all. I don't come to this site all that often, but when I see a thread that interests me I'll read through it and follow it along. But after a few posts the original idea or thread is transformed into something that in no way even resembles the original thought or context of the thread.
I didn't start the original thread on this matter I just wanted to repond to the original accusation that the UAW refused to bargain.
It must make YOU feel special to try to slap me down. Go ahead and enjoy.
skir
Los Angeles CA
I agree. Also customers get mad at us, like it was our fault we got thier late.
bubsdad
"Hang in there!"
I think that it is kind of like a conversation. Maybe someone's response triggers another response that might be somewhat off topic but still interesting and informative. I don't think it is a deliberate attempt to disrail your thread. Take it for what it is and try to glean any information you can out of all the posts.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I'm enjoying ... not from slapping you down though!
My original reply was facetious ... you've been hoaxed
All threads seem to stray off topic ... that was the intent of my reply. In you face.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
The earlier post that said that FedEx has much better employee relations than UPS is in error. While there are still some people that think FedEx is a good place to work, most of us feel otherwise. Maybe Brown runs you hard, but you've got much better pay and benefits, including an actual retirement program you can live on. I wish I had been willing to wait it out and be a package handler for a few years instead of choosing FedEx and going straight to driver.
If you compare feeder jobs, we stack-up even worse. Our RTD's are lucky if they even get 40 hrs a week, and most of our long runs have been subbed-out to Swift and other truckers. Our guys are almost exclusively local, and many are part-time. Being a Teamster means that management would have a hard time doing the same thing to UPS feeder drivers. Most FT RTD's make around $50,000 per year, and that's topped-out. What a joke.
If you compare feeder jobs, we stack-up even worse. Our RTD's are lucky if they even get 40 hrs a week, and most of our long runs have been subbed-out to Swift and other truckers. Our guys are almost exclusively local, and many are part-time. Being a Teamster means that management would have a hard time doing the same thing to UPS feeder drivers. Most FT RTD's make around $50,000 per year, and that's topped-out. What a joke.
bubsdad
"Hang in there!"
Better get out your encyclopedias and dictionaries and whatever else you can find if you're gonna get in a battle of wits with hoax.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
I'm not a lawyer, but the Reuters article appeared to indicate that the US Court of Appeals has ruled Ground drivers to be contractors who are cannot be organized under the NLRB. Does that mean that this will eventually get to the Supreme Court?
Note to Teamsters leadership: Perhaps you should get your sheet in order so you don't blow your opportunity to organize Express too.
It could I believe the court has selected their cases for this session though, they may add one like they did with the election in 00' or the vegetable state lady ( I apologize I forget her name).....has the supreme court ever heard a labor arguement before?
UPS vs FedEx rates------most of the Fed Ex customers are on some type of special discounts.UPS is very selective regarding discounts---and it always comes down to "Cost to Serve"--this is where FedEx kickss our butts because their cost (mostly lower labor costs) is much lower than UPS. I feel that we provide better service--and we need to continue to do so---but when it comes to the bottom line---customers will give up some service to save $$$$$$$$$$$$!! We recently lost the State of Calif to lower rates---a ton of business---also Federal Gov't uses FedEx because of much lower rates they can offer-------------if UPS would come in and lower their rates below FedEx--we would be sued for predatory pricing------as in charging rates that are lower than our cost to serve!!
This is very true and a good distinction. On some agreements with Customer's FedEx is actually using a letter rate regardless of weight, but it's very uncommon and requires special pricing.
The UPS side as was mentioned in other threads has become messy a little due to increased efforts by Revenue Recovery. Items such as CD's, Paychecks (Large numbers), large amounts of paper, are getting ding'd more commonly at the 1# rate these days. The shipper can call 800 and request a credit, but most of the time . . .
I realize that we have to maintain profitability and revenue during this difficult time, but it seems that by increasing our revenue policing we are just alienating customers.
See above, if I remember correctly, no weight limit does not apply to 2DA. Those packages get billed at actual if over 1#. That may have changed recently or I may be off base.
Coldworld
60 months and counting
But there have been times where fedex has totally undercut accounts of ups...and most likely lost money, so why doesnt ups check into this??
