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<blockquote data-quote="quadro" data-source="post: 823578" data-attributes="member: 12850"><p>Holy cow! I was out of breath reading this. Ever hear of a paragraph? <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Two wrongs are never going to make a right. Just because the hiring manager had not yet informed your manager that he had a signed offer letter doesn't mean A. he wouldn't, and B. that you're off the hook. HR was right, you can withdraw up to reporting day, it's just that there's a penalty that goes along with that.</p><p></p><p>I have no idea if your manager has always been correct or not. This whole thing is irrelevant. You have already stated that you weren't going to accept the job so it doesn't matter whether your manager knew the penalty or wears pink underwear, both things are irrelevant to the consequences of you withdrawing after signing the offer letter.</p><p></p><p>You can ask for an exception all you want. Your situation is not different from hundreds of employees that want to live near family. The process was completed, you signed the offer letter. Once again, just because the hiring manager hadn't yet notified your manager is irrelevant. And as for making allowances for the manager not knowing policy, I don't expect him, you, or anyone else to know all the policies. All you had to do before signing your offer letter if you had any doubt in your mind that you might not accept the position is to ASK what happens if you sign and then withdraw. You don't know the policy and neither does your manager so either one of you or both of you then go and look it up. If your manager won't help you, then HR will.</p><p></p><p>Again, I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking your argument. I'm sure you are a great guy even though you are a stubborn b**tard. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /> And I mean that in the most endearing way possible.</p><p></p><p>Just because you've worked hard for 20 years, a court is not going to accept that as a reason why a manager/FedEx treated you better/differently than someone else, especially if they are in a protected class. If you don't like that then start the political process to change the law.</p><p></p><p>If you accept the fact that you had complete control over this situation and it isn't anyone's fault that you didn't think to ask in advance, it'll do wonders for your blood pressure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="quadro, post: 823578, member: 12850"] Holy cow! I was out of breath reading this. Ever hear of a paragraph? :) Two wrongs are never going to make a right. Just because the hiring manager had not yet informed your manager that he had a signed offer letter doesn't mean A. he wouldn't, and B. that you're off the hook. HR was right, you can withdraw up to reporting day, it's just that there's a penalty that goes along with that. I have no idea if your manager has always been correct or not. This whole thing is irrelevant. You have already stated that you weren't going to accept the job so it doesn't matter whether your manager knew the penalty or wears pink underwear, both things are irrelevant to the consequences of you withdrawing after signing the offer letter. You can ask for an exception all you want. Your situation is not different from hundreds of employees that want to live near family. The process was completed, you signed the offer letter. Once again, just because the hiring manager hadn't yet notified your manager is irrelevant. And as for making allowances for the manager not knowing policy, I don't expect him, you, or anyone else to know all the policies. All you had to do before signing your offer letter if you had any doubt in your mind that you might not accept the position is to ASK what happens if you sign and then withdraw. You don't know the policy and neither does your manager so either one of you or both of you then go and look it up. If your manager won't help you, then HR will. Again, I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking your argument. I'm sure you are a great guy even though you are a stubborn b**tard. :) And I mean that in the most endearing way possible. Just because you've worked hard for 20 years, a court is not going to accept that as a reason why a manager/FedEx treated you better/differently than someone else, especially if they are in a protected class. If you don't like that then start the political process to change the law. If you accept the fact that you had complete control over this situation and it isn't anyone's fault that you didn't think to ask in advance, it'll do wonders for your blood pressure. [/QUOTE]
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