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<blockquote data-quote="bones" data-source="post: 204298" data-attributes="member: 8429"><p>It is very easy to be critical of upper managment when you have never been in their shoes nor fully understand all their jobs entail, that said I too think there are many things that could be done differently, however, I am in managment and you would never catch me complaining to anyone below me, as Tom Hanks said in Saving Private Ryan "complaints go up not down". Just because you don't see people complaining and suggesting different courses of action doesn't mean it doesn't happen, hopefully people are suggesting different courses of action but not walking around complaining to everyone who will listen. As far as the stock price we face many challenges that company's such as FEDEX don't face (we are union most of them aren't) that said I think we can be competitive, but both UPS and the union have to take actions that ensure UPS can stay competitive. I would like a big raise and bigger bonuses like anyone else would, however, if in the long run this practice puts UPS in the red with the possiblity of going broke I don't want it. Many may feel UPS is invincible, if you think this research REA express or look up how many company's have been around longer than UPS in the US (pretty sure the number is less than 10). We are not invincible and everyone needs to focus more on what they can do to make UPS better than what everyone else can do. Unless most do this I don't know how we can be competitive paying drivers and feeder drivers and probably friend/t management several dollars an hour more than any of the competition (not counting the much higher cost of health, welfare, and pension), while paying the p/t's several dollars an hour less as this is where almost all friend/t's come from now. As a whole I don't think there is anyone around with more than 20 years that will tell you p/t's now compare to p/t's then, yet these are the people we will be paying big money to for years to come when they go friend/t. We also have 22.3's where many of them have half of their jobs as clerical type jobs or carwashers where they make more than $20 an hour probably $30 when you count in health welfare and pension. I gurantee you the competition is not doing this. How do we complete? Unless we work much harder I don't know hopefully someone else does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bones, post: 204298, member: 8429"] It is very easy to be critical of upper managment when you have never been in their shoes nor fully understand all their jobs entail, that said I too think there are many things that could be done differently, however, I am in managment and you would never catch me complaining to anyone below me, as Tom Hanks said in Saving Private Ryan "complaints go up not down". Just because you don't see people complaining and suggesting different courses of action doesn't mean it doesn't happen, hopefully people are suggesting different courses of action but not walking around complaining to everyone who will listen. As far as the stock price we face many challenges that company's such as FEDEX don't face (we are union most of them aren't) that said I think we can be competitive, but both UPS and the union have to take actions that ensure UPS can stay competitive. I would like a big raise and bigger bonuses like anyone else would, however, if in the long run this practice puts UPS in the red with the possiblity of going broke I don't want it. Many may feel UPS is invincible, if you think this research REA express or look up how many company's have been around longer than UPS in the US (pretty sure the number is less than 10). We are not invincible and everyone needs to focus more on what they can do to make UPS better than what everyone else can do. Unless most do this I don't know how we can be competitive paying drivers and feeder drivers and probably friend/t management several dollars an hour more than any of the competition (not counting the much higher cost of health, welfare, and pension), while paying the p/t's several dollars an hour less as this is where almost all friend/t's come from now. As a whole I don't think there is anyone around with more than 20 years that will tell you p/t's now compare to p/t's then, yet these are the people we will be paying big money to for years to come when they go friend/t. We also have 22.3's where many of them have half of their jobs as clerical type jobs or carwashers where they make more than $20 an hour probably $30 when you count in health welfare and pension. I gurantee you the competition is not doing this. How do we complete? Unless we work much harder I don't know hopefully someone else does. [/QUOTE]
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