EAT MY OVERALLOWED
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If that's an unwritten rule then I guess UPS should force all the rest of the operations managers to retire because that's all they get paid to do...
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If that's an unwritten rule then I guess UPS should force all the rest of the operations managers to retire because that's all they get paid to do...
UPS Lifer
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I don't think we are in disagreement here. My impression with the original post was that the poster does not like the way the grievances are being handled. The poster feels that there is some sort of collusion going on.... and that may be the case. However, the poster needs to prove to the NLRB that that there is collusion... not the same thing as what you are describing above. He would need a smoking gun! Just because the steward is a nice guy and the President of the local is a neighbor and "drinking buddy" with the center manager won't cut it! LOL!
huh??? What's wrong with you?? Do you just type meaningless BS for the heck of it... I think we have another union know it alll here.. Everyones laughing at you and not with you... Even if you don't notice them laughing.... They are... at you.......
EAT MY OVERALLOWED
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I laugh everyday at what you allegedly do for a living.
Another good one.. Don't laugh too hard, you might hurt my feelings...
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Just like the horse laughs at the cowboy?
join TDU. campaign, get peeps involved. throw the cronies out! happens all the time. u can do it!!!!
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Don't get me wrong. We have a good BA.
While not a member, I use TDUs resources all the time. I'll even print out articles from the web site and leave them on the counter where we turn in. People aren't interested and I will not put my neck out there completely if I KNOW there is absolutlly no support for it. Sorry.
I still write protest letters for those who ask, go in the office when stewards aren't around and give contract advice. I am what one could refer to as a de facto steward.
barnyard
KTM rider
We have had elections in our extended centers. We have replaced stewards once in my career. I don't think a steward being friends with a center manager would have any affect on contract enforcement. Just because there is no yelling and screaming, does not mean that members interests are not being pursued.
Stewards are paid for their work. In exchange for being a steward, they do not pay union dues.
I have discussed lots of issues with my steward and have offered advice regarding safety issues and other items. What I have found, is that a grievance is filed, the manager dismisses it and the employee drops it. Very, very few are willing to take it beyond a sit down with the steward and the center manager. To me, that is not ineffectual leadership, that is individuals not following through with their grievance.
Most of our grievances are over warning letters. In these cases, the grievances are thrown out and the employee is told to follow the methods, that is what they are paid to do. Then the employees complain that the union is not backing them up.
I could not be a steward. Way to much whining to put up with.
Stewards are paid for their work. In exchange for being a steward, they do not pay union dues.
I have discussed lots of issues with my steward and have offered advice regarding safety issues and other items. What I have found, is that a grievance is filed, the manager dismisses it and the employee drops it. Very, very few are willing to take it beyond a sit down with the steward and the center manager. To me, that is not ineffectual leadership, that is individuals not following through with their grievance.
Most of our grievances are over warning letters. In these cases, the grievances are thrown out and the employee is told to follow the methods, that is what they are paid to do. Then the employees complain that the union is not backing them up.
I could not be a steward. Way to much whining to put up with.
grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
I and every other Steward I know pay dues, You need to be careful spreading around crap that is not true. The only thing I get from being a seward is alot more work. Most of which I take care of off the clock , in the evenings and on the weekends.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Sounds like being in management to me ... I would have thought you at least got DIP (Dues Incentive Plan).
barnyard
KTM rider
In my region it is true.
+1
Here you can get your dues refunded to if you attend every single meeting at the Union Hall, I don't know of any steward who's ever done that. I represent people as a steward because I think it's an important job that needs to be done, I've never received any material benefit from it.
tieguy
Banned
shop stewards = unpaid management
barnyard
KTM rider
In many, many ways that is true. Too many times we get guys that are getting warning letters for doing stupid, stupid things. The employee then gets their hand slapped by the union too.
I tracked down the original crap-spreader
. . .Of course, Stewards get paid at straight time and overtime for all time spent on the clock in their roll as stewards as well.
Karma is a bitch
Be careful what you say
I'm starting the NLRB complaint against my Local 804 and business agent for not following seniorty rules
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The union doesn't follow seniority, the enforce it. If someone else is being worked over you then that is Ups management's fault and you need to file a grievance. IF you've done that and they failed to fairly represent you, then you would go to the NLRB.
Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
Why go through all of that when you can just vote him out in the next erection?
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