Finally won bid on route

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Whatbrownwontdoforyou, Aug 31, 2014.

  1. Whatbrownwontdoforyou

    Whatbrownwontdoforyou Well-Known Member

    I finally won a bid on a package car route and they are telling me they can't train me on it what can I do it's been a month


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  2. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    Take a sick day and follow the other driver. Get the printout and drive it on the weekend.
     
  3. Whatbrownwontdoforyou

    Whatbrownwontdoforyou Well-Known Member

    But do they have a responsibility to train me?


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  4. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    It's in everyone's best interest if they train you. I've went out blind on about 5 routes in my time, all before Orion and did fine. It's going to come down to whether they let you go out blind when you ask.
     
  5. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Start running 3 hours or more over on the route they assign you until they decide to put you on your new bid route.

    File a grievance, in my area they have 10 days to put you on your new bid.
    Check with your steward and/or business agent.
     
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  6. Have another driver,train you.
     
  7. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    You really need to be trained???? Ask to be put on the route and learn to do it the old-fashioned way.
     
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  8. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Tell them fine I will run it blind then. Either bomb it until someone trains you or you figure it out.

    This job isn't that hard it'll all get done eventually. I might also add file 9.5 after your first 3 days.
     
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  9. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Grab said board. Punch in said board. Make sure your name and id is in said board. Enough said?
     
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  10. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    If it's been a month you definitely should have been moved by now. Grab a steward Tuesday morning when you come in and fill out a grievance form and make a photocopy.

    Next go with the steward and tell your center manager that it's been over a month, you have a right to be on your bid route and you expect to start running it that day. If he doesn't agree to it, hand him a copy of the grievance and have the steward file it.
     
  11. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    I disagree with your first 2 sentences about telling a guy to run 3 hours over and to file a grievance. Everything after that was decent advice. Just wanted to let you know what I disagreed with in your post.
     
  12. Whatbrownwontdoforyou

    Whatbrownwontdoforyou Well-Known Member

    Could I grieve it under the master or supplemental.....what article I couldn't find it
     
  13. File everything under article 37 and all others that apply.
     
  14. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    That's mature. Give terrible advice then when people disagree with you you disagree with all their posts. Lol
     
  15. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I'm not sure what book he is going by???
     
  16. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I subscribe to the notion that the "squeaky wheel gets the grease" at UPS.
    While normally an obvious slow down would not be good advice, this situation is different.
    No center manager or Labor Manager would take this driver to panel over a reduced SPOHR in light of the fact that they are being denied for over a month their right to take their bid route.
    But to suggest that this driver take an unpaid day or a Saturday to learn the route to management's satisfaction is ludicrous.
    Now you know why I disagreed with you.
     
  17. Whatbrownwontdoforyou

    Whatbrownwontdoforyou Well-Known Member

    Thank you everyone for the input......I will start trying to straighten this out on Tuesday


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  18. JL 0513

    JL 0513 Well-Known Member

    Since going to cover driver in May, I've done about a dozen routes plus many different split areas. Different everyday. I've only been trained on 3, all the rest blind. Always finish "on time".

    Hint: Good smartphone with portable charger. ;)
     
  19. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    Just to clarify I said take a sick day, which is a paid day. I was only trying to give him a way to learn the route since after a month he still wasn't on it and I'm sure if he had the area knowledge he would be on it.
     
  20. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    As much as management hates to admit it some drivers just don't pick up routes quickly at all.

    We have a driver that did his training route then immediately got a route given to him. 3 years later his route became a training route. His route is a real ball buster no one wants to run it. He burns it up though. Well while bumped he gets put on what I consider gravy country runs. He's now workin 12 hours a day and 3 hours over. He says "I have no clue how you guys just pick these routes after a few days".