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Fired and union did not accurately represent me.
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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 823954" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Crowbar, </p><p> </p><p>There is no need to examine this case any further. The facts are pretty easy to understand. Your points of what the company knew has no bearing on the objective fact of the termination.</p><p> </p><p>We as hourly employees have to obigations to meet each business day. First, we report to work on time and ready to work or we call out ill for the day. These are requirements for the job.</p><p> </p><p>In the event that an employee neither reports to work or calls out ill, this is classified as a "NO CALL NO SHOW". In our contract, you can "NO CALL NO SHOW" 4 times in a row and recieve discipline in the form of a warning letter.</p><p> </p><p>On the 5th consecutive day, the discipline is a discharge. No questions asked. </p><p> </p><p>Before the company can discharge the employee on the 5th, they must send out a 48 hour report notice. Once this letter is sent out and its recieved, the employee must report in person regardless of circumstances.</p><p> </p><p>If the employee is incarcerated at the time and fails to report, the employee will be terminated on the 5th day.</p><p> </p><p>Its that simple. Job Abandonment = Failure to report. Same thing.</p><p> </p><p>The company has no obligation to track him down, look up his case, calculate his length of incarceration and cover his route in the interim.</p><p> </p><p>The only time the company would do such a thing would be in the following scenario:</p><p> </p><p>A driver is on route, has a mild heart attack on route and is taken to a hospital leaving his truck until the company could come and retrieve it. The company would then hold the drivers position open until his eventual recovery in the hospital.</p><p> </p><p>This would not be considered job abandonment even if the driver does not report.</p><p> </p><p>This is completely different than this posters story.</p><p> </p><p>This poster failed to comply with a court order and sentence. He allowed the time for completion to expire and ran around in a UPS truck with a bench warrant for his arrest. Who knows how many months he drove around with a warrant for his arrest.</p><p> </p><p>This poster failed to take any action to correct the situation with the court and was eventually tracked down and arrested on route.</p><p> </p><p>Given the severity of the action by the police, it can be assumed the original charge was a serious offense as police do not waste resources tracking down traffic ticket offenders.</p><p> </p><p>Once in jail, he had to serve his original sentence for his crime and suffer the consequences that arise out of them. One of those consequences is the loss of his career at UPS.</p><p> </p><p>Nothing else matters, no periferal issue can change the objective facts of this case.</p><p> </p><p>He's out of a career, period.</p><p> </p><p>Its a shame his agent and local doesnt have the balls to tell him the truth, and decidedly gave his an "excuse" to try and get rid of him.</p><p> </p><p>He has no case and no right to any appeals.</p><p> </p><p>Dont encourage him, advise him to move on and stop committing crimes.</p><p> </p><p>Thats the best advice anyone can give him.</p><p> </p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 823954, member: 17969"] Crowbar, There is no need to examine this case any further. The facts are pretty easy to understand. Your points of what the company knew has no bearing on the objective fact of the termination. We as hourly employees have to obigations to meet each business day. First, we report to work on time and ready to work or we call out ill for the day. These are requirements for the job. In the event that an employee neither reports to work or calls out ill, this is classified as a "NO CALL NO SHOW". In our contract, you can "NO CALL NO SHOW" 4 times in a row and recieve discipline in the form of a warning letter. On the 5th consecutive day, the discipline is a discharge. No questions asked. Before the company can discharge the employee on the 5th, they must send out a 48 hour report notice. Once this letter is sent out and its recieved, the employee must report in person regardless of circumstances. If the employee is incarcerated at the time and fails to report, the employee will be terminated on the 5th day. Its that simple. Job Abandonment = Failure to report. Same thing. The company has no obligation to track him down, look up his case, calculate his length of incarceration and cover his route in the interim. The only time the company would do such a thing would be in the following scenario: A driver is on route, has a mild heart attack on route and is taken to a hospital leaving his truck until the company could come and retrieve it. The company would then hold the drivers position open until his eventual recovery in the hospital. This would not be considered job abandonment even if the driver does not report. This is completely different than this posters story. This poster failed to comply with a court order and sentence. He allowed the time for completion to expire and ran around in a UPS truck with a bench warrant for his arrest. Who knows how many months he drove around with a warrant for his arrest. This poster failed to take any action to correct the situation with the court and was eventually tracked down and arrested on route. Given the severity of the action by the police, it can be assumed the original charge was a serious offense as police do not waste resources tracking down traffic ticket offenders. Once in jail, he had to serve his original sentence for his crime and suffer the consequences that arise out of them. One of those consequences is the loss of his career at UPS. Nothing else matters, no periferal issue can change the objective facts of this case. He's out of a career, period. Its a shame his agent and local doesnt have the balls to tell him the truth, and decidedly gave his an "excuse" to try and get rid of him. He has no case and no right to any appeals. Dont encourage him, advise him to move on and stop committing crimes. Thats the best advice anyone can give him. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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