Fired!!!!For pissing in the bushes!!!!

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by outamyway, May 12, 2007.

  1. outamyway

    outamyway New Member

    One of my fellow EAM drivers was let go on friday for peeing in the bushes near where we unload our EAM cans in the morning.

    To give you a better idea of why he did this, I 'll explain our little EAM setup for you. We do not unload/load in a facility but in a vacant parking lot about 200 yards from our airport facility. They bring the cans over, we unload, sort, then load up and go. There are no houses around and it's on a dead end street with almost no traffic and a nice view of the airport.

    Well this fellow driver also happens to be the son of our new EAM sup. Noone likes her or ever did and there have already been complaints about the mother and son work relationship since she became our supervisor a week ago.

    Now honestly, do you think it had anything to do with him peeing in the bushes?

    Just a pinch of the drama unfolding at our facility, for your enjoyment.
     
  2. Raw

    Raw Raw Member

    EAM driver won`t stay fired for that !
     
  3. 705red

    705red Browncafe Steward

    Your in vegas? He couldnt have gone into a casino? Theres casinos everywhere!
     
  4. dillweed

    dillweed Well-Known Member

    Peeing in bushes could be considered indecent exposure and I'm not so sure that job can be saved. Don't see that the mother/son relationship should have anything to do with it.

    Guys are guys and if I were one I'd pee all sorts of places off the clock. Heck, even as a woman I've been known to dash into a corn field or wooded area if I had to go.

    However, when we have those browns on we are represent a well known company and pissing in public doesn't fly. He should have had a pop bottle or can around and jumped into the back of the pkg car.

    I've held my pee 'til I had a headache running Sat air until I learned to take time and stop at the first urge. Some industrial areas have no restrooms! I also broke down and asked someone at a factory if I could use their restroom and felt unprofessional and boobish for revealing such a personal need while delivering.

    I have no pity for pee-boy. dw
     
  5. Channahon

    Channahon New Member


    Good thing the driver didn't have to pinch a loaf, or things would have gotten messier.

    Who fired the driver? His mom? If so, that will be an interesting hearing?

    Aren't employees working at the airport facility required to wear badges? That would give you access to the building 200 yards away?

    I would have taken the same action, no employee should use the restroom in public,
    male or female. It's rude and disrespectful.

    This scenario is no better than a driver using a bottle to relieve himself and leave it in a UPS vehicle, or the hub employee who can't make it to the restroom and a haz mat responder needs to clean up the mess.
     
  6. The-UK-Guy

    The-UK-Guy Tea anyone ?

    should you piss in your pants channahon or would you fire someone for doing that also
     
  7. The-UK-Guy

    The-UK-Guy Tea anyone ?

    Ive had my ups truck break down and been out on road waiting 5 hours for a tow truck , should I tie it in a knot
     
  8. Channahon

    Channahon New Member

    We are not talking about a child here, who was just toilet trained and having an accident.

    We are talking about someone who is over 21 years old, has access to a building 200 yards away, and chooses to relieve himself near some bushes. It's just a poor decision and I'm sure he'll get his job back.

    What would you do in a situation like this, with a building 200 yards away?
     
  9. Channahon

    Channahon New Member

    If you can do that, you are in the wrong business.

    Thanks for the vulgar and disgusting thought.
     
  10. The-UK-Guy

    The-UK-Guy Tea anyone ?

    lol, sorry , that is rather gross . Perhaps managment cracking there whips above the poor boys head screeming production production had something to do with his actions, or maybe he was lazy but if you gotta go you gotta go
     
  11. local804

    local804 Well-Known Member

    UK guy
    Channahon is the most realistic poster from management that posts on this board. She tells it like it is, not like a few other from the managment side. Tie it in a knot? come on........
     
  12. dillweed

    dillweed Well-Known Member

    raw, not trying to get in a "pissing match" with you but what the heck do you think women do when they have to go in public? We hold it or walk to wherever we have to and make darned sure we are not seen.

    Adult males, especially professionals, do not whip out their weeners and piss in public. dw
     
  13. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    I'm not going to express opinion on when and where you can go, but I liked the "knot" reference!
     
  14. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    ....... BUT, I will say it was extreme to fire him.

    How 'bout a quiet talk first? Some management advice? A warning letter, perhaps?

    Me thinks he'll easily get his job back.
     
  15. The-UK-Guy

    The-UK-Guy Tea anyone ?

    I didnt meen it to come out like that , sorry, the post not the knot thing you know what I meen
     
  16. The-UK-Guy

    The-UK-Guy Tea anyone ?

    no dis respect intended
     
  17. Raw

    Raw Raw Member

    Thats one of the positives of being male! Just a few months ago as I was leaving for the day I saw an unloader in the UPS parking lot dash behind a trailer 10 feet from the restroom to relieve himself !
     
  18. Hangingon

    Hangingon New Member

    I think Channahon said earlier she is retired. If so she can now use common sense and state her true opinions. Most current mgm't I come into contact with lately in operations seem to be too afraid to make any decision or statement w/o first checking with their superiors in fear that it isn't in keeping with the daily marching orders from on high. I disagree with many of the tactics that seem to be the MO at UPS lately but I will admit as pressured as drivers are the supervisors feel it 10 times worse.
     
  19. jlphotog

    jlphotog Member

    DW, I'm not sure why you would feel that way. We are talking about a normal bodily function. Every person and animal does it.

    I have three different commercial stops where I regularly use their restroom. And there are two or three other places where I have asked to use theirs. No one has ever had a problem with it, and as far as I know, no one thought any less of me for asking.
     
  20. BCFan

    BCFan Active Member

    :confused:1 :confused:1 :confused:1 Since when is relieving one's self a Cardinal Sin ? Fact is, in the contract it is up to employer to provide "facilities" for employees....still it was a bad judgement call but not being privy to all the facts it is truly hard to pass judgement.....good luck in getting your job back I too think you will return....but when you get back seek advice from senior drivers on that subject I am quite sure they can offer some alternate options than hiking your leg on a tree...:thumbup1: BC