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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 882029" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Why doesnt anyone focus on the "incident" itself. Everyone wants to get to a conclusion first and then ask questions later. Ive read nothing but conclusions about coming back and winning his case, despite the fact that we dont know the "FACTS".</p><p></p><p>Lets start with this.</p><p></p><p>Why was he fired? Could it be, that it was his 3rd accident in 9 months? Could it be, that it went unreported? Could it be, that he "lied" about the circumstances when he called it in?</p><p></p><p>We need the answers to this first.</p><p></p><p>Second, Why was he on a private driveway in the first place? We dont do driveways. Was he "instructed" to drive on driveways, or was he "instructed" to stay off driveways?</p><p></p><p>Third, In his "BRIEF" 4 year career, how many accidents has he had? How many tier 1's, how many tier 2's, how many tier 3's?</p><p></p><p>Fourth, What does his "total" disicpline picture look like? What is in his pittsburg? He mentions that he was already on a working discharge for failing to go help out another driver, but I wonder how many other pieces of discipline "litter" his package? How does a 4 year driver "refuse" to help out?</p><p></p><p>A 4 year driver better understand that he <strong>"IS"</strong> the <strong>"HELP"</strong> and not some wonderboy who gets to go home. I dont care what his dispatch is. At 4 years, he's the help.</p><p></p><p>Fifth, he says in his original post that the customer said "dont worry , its only bark". But who did he say that too? Him or the supervisor? Further, how does this make his case any less serious? Sure the tree lost some bark, but the truck was damaged and probably needed to be repaired. What dollar damage does that amount too?</p><p></p><p>Once you have all the answers to these questions fully, can anyone make a suggestion to him that he will return.</p><p></p><p>I question his judgement. Was he on his cell phone when he hit the low branch? Was he on that driveway in the DARK in his 11 hour dispatch and he couldnt get the big pitcure?</p><p></p><p>No 4 year driver should be on a working discharge and a discharge for an accident in less than 9 months without being a trouble maker.</p><p></p><p>FIND THE ANSWERS.</p><p></p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 882029, member: 17969"] Why doesnt anyone focus on the "incident" itself. Everyone wants to get to a conclusion first and then ask questions later. Ive read nothing but conclusions about coming back and winning his case, despite the fact that we dont know the "FACTS". Lets start with this. Why was he fired? Could it be, that it was his 3rd accident in 9 months? Could it be, that it went unreported? Could it be, that he "lied" about the circumstances when he called it in? We need the answers to this first. Second, Why was he on a private driveway in the first place? We dont do driveways. Was he "instructed" to drive on driveways, or was he "instructed" to stay off driveways? Third, In his "BRIEF" 4 year career, how many accidents has he had? How many tier 1's, how many tier 2's, how many tier 3's? Fourth, What does his "total" disicpline picture look like? What is in his pittsburg? He mentions that he was already on a working discharge for failing to go help out another driver, but I wonder how many other pieces of discipline "litter" his package? How does a 4 year driver "refuse" to help out? A 4 year driver better understand that he [B]"IS"[/B] the [B]"HELP"[/B] and not some wonderboy who gets to go home. I dont care what his dispatch is. At 4 years, he's the help. Fifth, he says in his original post that the customer said "dont worry , its only bark". But who did he say that too? Him or the supervisor? Further, how does this make his case any less serious? Sure the tree lost some bark, but the truck was damaged and probably needed to be repaired. What dollar damage does that amount too? Once you have all the answers to these questions fully, can anyone make a suggestion to him that he will return. I question his judgement. Was he on his cell phone when he hit the low branch? Was he on that driveway in the DARK in his 11 hour dispatch and he couldnt get the big pitcure? No 4 year driver should be on a working discharge and a discharge for an accident in less than 9 months without being a trouble maker. FIND THE ANSWERS. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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