First day of IRS hearing end with a THUD...!

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Alan Dershowicz ---Long time Liberal Expert Attorney on Constitution and all legal matters claims IRS official gave up her right -- --SHE freely proclaimed in her opening statement that there was nothing she could be incriminated {derived from crime) SHE proclaimed that she had done nothing wrong, broke no rules and committed no crime ---erg --no right to take the 5th.
Of course RR would know more than this liberal renowned famous attorney.

Alan Dershowicz hasnt been "right" on anything in the last 10 years. He also said the supreme court would overturn the affordable heath care act, and how did that prediction work out?

Again, hearings to nowhere.

Only the fools follow this story, and those fools self identify themselves.

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Its amazing how ALL you constitutional experts clung to the constitution for 4 years as if you believed in it so strongly you were willing to fight for it, yet, when ONE american applies that same constitution to herself, you want to criticize her for excersizing one of those rights in that very constitution.

What is wrong with you people? Are you this stupid, collectively?

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wkmac

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The idea of the 5th is to NOT TALK !!! She doesn't get it.......and that makes her lawyer the stupid one !!

Depending on the setting More. If you believe what you say in a specific setting can be used against you in a criminal setting later, then yes, the 5th amendment applies as it clearly states, you can not be compelled to be a witness against yourself.

The irony of this situation is that the IRS itself states that 95% of the information used against a taxpayer in either criminal or civil setting comes from the taxpayer themselves. Yet if you plead the 5th, court decisions galore exist that say that in the case of the IRS and tax returns, you can not. Therefore by default, the tax return itself violates the spirit of the 5th amendment but claiming so only gets your property seized and/or you thrown in jail.

In that rests the real irony about this whole situation IMO.

The other good thing about this, the more you people are "kicked in the teeth" time and time again by these gang thugs under the illusion of a social contract, maybe one day you'll wake up and just not play their game anymore.

As the song sez, "I like it, I love it, I want some more of it!"
 

bbsam

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The right to speech does not preclude ones right not to answer questions. Lol. Two amendments side by side.
 

moreluck

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The idea of the 5th is to NOT TALK !!! She doesn't get it.......and that makes her lawyer the stupid one !!

This gets me negative repped ?? I wouldn't trust you with a gun....you are trigger-happy and get too frustrated to use your words !!!!






Thread: First day of IRS hearing end with a THUD...!
"Maybe you should not talk for awhile" Roadrunner's comment to me. Just so everyone can see what you are made of.
 

oldngray

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The right to speech does not preclude ones right not to answer questions. Lol. Two amendments side by side.

No, you can only believe it if they say it on the internet.
But seriously, its a very gray area and would end up how a judge decides and would get appealed all the way to the Supreme Court since its a Constitutional issue. That would be very expensive and time consuming, and even if the court agreed she had waived her 5th amendment rights she would suddenly develop a severe case of amnesia, so forcing her to testify won't achieve much. They do need to follow the paper trail and use that proof to nail her and try to get her to cop a plea, but that will be difficult. Very possibly she took the 5th to protect her superiors so as long as she keeps her mouth shut they will find another job for her somewhere else after she finally resigns ( with full government pension intact).
 

Babagounj

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[h=1]Obama half-brother uses IRS status to fund polygamy?[/h]
NEW YORK – Funds contributed in the United States to a 501(c)3 foundation run by President Obama’s older half-brother, Abongo “Roy” Malik Obama, have been diverted to support Malik’s multiple wives in Kenya, an expert on Islamic extremism has charged.
Walid Shoebat, an Arabic-speaking former Muslim Brotherhood member, has detailed his allegations in a 22-page investigative report titled “New IRS Scandal: Islamic Extremism and Sex Slaves: Report Reveals Obama’s Relatives Run Charities of Deceit,” published on his website

After a thorough examination of available evidence, Shoebat explained to WND his allegations against the Obama family tax-exempt foundations:
“When Malik Obama and Sarah Obama raised money in the United States as the respective heads of foundations claiming to be charities, not only did the Internal Revenue Service illegally grant one of them tax-deductible status retroactively, but these foundations have supported – to varying degrees – illegal operations that acquire funding for personal gain, philandering, polygamy and the promotion of Wahhabism, the brand of Islam practiced by Al-Qaeda.”
On March 3, 2013, Andrew Malone, reporting for the London Daily Mail, documented that Malik’s youngest wife in Kenya, Sheila Anyano, 35 years his junior, had spent the past two years living with three of Malik’s other wives at the “Barack H Obama Foundation rest and relaxation center,” a restaurant complex that profits from visitors drawn by the family’s connection to the American president.

Shoebot charged that Malik Obama is abusing non-profit funds.
“There is no evidence to suggest that Malik is building any houses in Kogelo for widows and orphans as claimed,” Shoebat said.
Neither is there evidence that the Mama Sarah Foundation has built any homes for widows, orphans and HIV/AIDS victims.
“The only evidence where monies were spent involves the Barack H. Obama Recreation and Rest Center in Kenya, which housed Malik’s 12 wives in a facility that includes a restaurant and a mosque with a madrassa,” he said.
“There is nothing of charitable nature to show for all the funds Malik raises from the United States. To date, there is no evidence for any accomplishments toward building homes for orphans, widows and AIDS victims in Kogelo or anywhere else in Kenya.”


 

moreluck

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Via Washington Examiner:
President Obama may have promised “to hold the responsible parties accountable” for the Internal Revenue Service targeting of conservative non-profit groups, but one of the agents at the center of the scandal was recently promoted, an IRS source tells The Washington Examiner.

Through 2012, then Exempt Organization Specialist Stephen Seok signed many of the intimidating letters sent to conservative non-profit applicants. For example, this January 2012 letter sent to the Richmond Tea Party demanded the date, time, and location of all group events, as well as copies of all handouts provided at the event, and the names and credentials of all organizers. Seok also demanded the names of all speakers and the contents of the speeches they made.

According to FOX 19 in Cincinnati, Seok is no longer a Exempt Organization Specialist. He has since been promoted to a “supervisor IRS agent.”
 

moreluck

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So, if you are audited by the IRS and brought in for questioning, can you plead the fifth the way Lois Lame did in her hearing ????????????
 

Upsmule

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I swear what a crock of ******. Can only imagine whats going on with the rest of this crooked regime. Lap it up government trusting zombies.
 

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I swear what a crock of ******. Can only imagine whats going on with the rest of this crooked regime. Lap it up government trusting zombies.

Oh boy, you used the Limbaugh verbage "REGIME"... what a puppet. Goes to show where your intelligence comes from.

Dream on mule. You follow the hearings to nowhere. Waste your time following the bengazi hearings. Waste your time following the spying on journalist... then ask yourself:

"AM I REALLY THIS GULIBLE?"

Then ill answer with "OF COURSE YOU ARE"... " your part of the old white male group that makes up the GOP in 2013"

Peace

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Upsmule

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I swear what a crock of ******. Can only imagine whats going on with the rest of this crooked regime. Lap it up government trusting zombies.

Oh boy, you used the Limbaugh verbage "REGIME"... what a puppet. Goes to show where your intelligence comes from.

Dream on mule. You follow the hearings to nowhere. Waste your time following the bengazi hearings. Waste your time following the spying on journalist... then ask yourself:

"AM I REALLY THIS GULIBLE?"

Then ill answer with "OF COURSE YOU ARE"... " your part of the old white male group that makes up the GOP in 2013"

Peace

TOS

Utopianism substitutes glorious predictions- and-unachievable promises.... for knowledge, science, and reason, while laying claim to them all you tool.
 

Upsmule

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If man’s nature cant be trusted, how can the nature of a ruler or a ruling assembly of men be trusted? Easy!

GULLIBILITY!
 

moreluck

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