Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Baba gounj, Aug 5, 2009.

  1. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov." emphasis added

    SOURCE: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/

    As a taxpaying citizen I find this to be an insult.
    A national " snitch " line.
  2. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    This is a good time to sign up for the DNC newsletter and forward it to them. :D
  3. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    That's snitching !! This admin. thinks it's coming up with new and innovative ideas and all it's doing is getting stranger & stranger.

    Did I hear that congress wants private jets now ?? A whole other thread. :dead:
  4. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    The mind police wish to control the thoughts and speech of the citizenry.
  5. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    quickly we must all report on ourselves
    what better way to screw with them
  6. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    I am actually getting paranoid about any ".gov" site address. The gov. might come through and attach itself to my computer and spy on me.:anxious:
  7. over9five

    over9five Senior Member Staff Member

    Definitely a new Nazi-ish technique brought to you by BHO.
  8. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    A liberal nazi. what a concept. Baba I like you idea. I think I may report myself.
  9. av8torntn

    av8torntn Well-Known Member

  10. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    av8torntn, I hope you flagged this. The whitehouse has to be told about this.:wink2:
  11. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

    Too late, tie, I already called you , baba, and wkmac in on the tip hotline. If my leads pan out, I'm looking at three grand in my pocket. Beats the ups sales lead program.:knockedout:

    I might drop the dime on moreluck as well, she has been posting ungerman thoughts lately
  12. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Gee, that's the hard way. I just sent them a link to the BC Current Events forum and got a check so big I was able to secure property and travel arrangements outside the US before the balloon goes up.

    I'll send you a post card if I can figure out which one of those YouTube enslavement camps they'll have all you suckers housed in!

  13. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Sorry I already informed on myself before I started this thread.
    I'm hoping for a camp in the desert, the climate will do wonders for my skin.
  14. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    It's important for a girl to keep up her looks in the face of tyranny!


    I got a kick out of your post as you can tell!
  15. diesel96

    diesel96 New Member

    This is one of those moments where you go, Huh!

    From Republican members of Congress speaking on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives to ConservativeTalk Radio

    REP. VIRGINIA FOXX (R-NC): Republicans have a better solution that won‘t put the government in charge of people‘s health care, that will make sure we bring down the cost of health care for all Americans, and that insures affordable access for all Americans, and is pro-life because it will not put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government.

    REP. PAUL BROUN (R-G): A lot of people are going to die. This program of government option that‘s being touted as being this panacea, the savior of allowing people to have quality health care at an affordable price, is going to kill people.

    RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: People at a certain age with certain diseases will be deemed not worth the investment, and they will just—as Obama said—they‘ll give them some pain pills and let them loop out until they die and they don‘t even know what‘s happened.

    It's easy to see why so many people fall into the GOP trap. After all of the years of getting screwed by their own GOP govt, it's hard to believe the new Democrat leadership when they offer you something that would actually benefit you. Some have become so spiteful and distrustful of our govt that they want us to believe they're are out to kill us. Despite the fact that all of the rest of the industrialized nations in the world have socialized medicine and rank as well or higher than the USA in quality, some of us are convinced that it is impossible to do it successfully. But I get it, you are supposed to wait until Rush explains what the bill REAL says and then to attach the lead to your collar. :cool_dog:
  16. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    My grandfather is in his late 80s, and during this 9th decade of this life he has had a hip and knee replaced, had surgery to remove cancer, and received radiation therapy to keep the cancer away and is still with us today. In countries like Canada and England he would have had to wait years for a hip and or knee replacement, and the cancer surgery would have never happened because he would have passed away before he would have made it to the front of the waiting line for the surgery. This is assuming he would have been allowed in the waiting line to begin with. When something is perceived as "free"(when its not) people consume more. When you throw more people into a healthcare system without increasing the number of doctors you will get healthcare rationing. No nation with socialized medicine has been able to get away from it. Unfortunately the ones who receive most of the healthcare cuts that go with healthcare rationing will be those who believed too close to the end of their life to benefit much from the healthcare available. A good example is the state of Oregon which refused to pay for life extending drugs for a cancer patient, but would pay for euthanasia <--click for story.
  17. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    And this is what happens when private health insurance companies make a "business decision". CIGNA, btw happens to be the insurance that has been selected for your truly by local 639. I hope if I or my wife gets really sick we don't suffer the same treatment so that the CEO can get his 13 million dollar bonus or whatever it is.
  18. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    That is unfortunate, but when the government is the only provider of healthcare and this occurs to someone else there will be no appeals process.
  19. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    What appeals process are you speaking of? The girl is dead.
  20. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    Sueing the insurer, the bad publicity hurting the insurance provider, etc. Some options after the fact will simply not be available under a completely government run healthcare system.

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."-C.S. Lewis