Follow ORION 85% or....

[toonertoo]

Maybe that's why it is harder for me to learn a route with orion. I don't look at their silly map. Before or after I'm on the clock. I scroll through the diad and see what stops I have for the day and run them the best I can. Hell with orion.

I do not see how you can learn a route with Orion. I dont think you ever get the area knowledge us senior people got. I was looking for a street one day, I called the driver who usually carries it, and asked him which rd to go down to get to x. He says, I cant really tell you where it is, I usually just run into it.

 

[porkwagon]

It's called operational sabotage and, yeah, they can fire you for not working as directed.

Following ORION is not operational sabotage, Well maybe it is, but the company is the author of the sabotage. If following ORION is sabotage and is grounds for termination, then fire ORION!

 

[Scottyhawk]

For my fellow cover drivers, does anyone think it's now easier to learn a route in the blind with Orion?

NO

 

[The Blackadder]

It's called operational sabotage and, yeah, they can fire you for not working as directed.

But he is working A.D.. he is following the great and powerful Orion. LOL

 

[Orion inc.]

Orion was designed to increase stops per car and stops per mile. They say it's to reduce miles but it's real purpose is to create 2 or more stops per 1/2 mile. Notice the centers with Orion cut the most routes? That's not a coincidence. It's what they really designed it for.

It is there to increase production overall. If it was only all about miles, you would never see crazy split work or such.

Orion is ALL about production.

 

[iruhnman630]

we got hit with the "REDUCE MILES and REDUCE BACKS" pcm a while back, 50 drivers replied, "which one?"

I had an orion champion tell me he was 'ordering' me to back into driveways to avoid going around the block.

Now the 'back too much' report is posted next to the 'didnt back enough' report.

You cant make this stuff up.

 

[toonertoo]

I got a new approach today. " Lets try to have a day like friday again" Instead of "you sucked yesterday." I went with the rah, rah, and said "Ok, take 20 stops off, and 100 pieces, and we will", rah, rah. its math, I cant fix it.

 

[iruhnman630]

Orion is about production.

Case in point: I covered a route on Monday I hadnt run in 2 years.

It is a heavy commercial route, and the only sendible way to run it is finish bus deliveries, take break, any resis as time permits, pickups, then resis.

Monday Orion had 30 house stops looped, erratically, in with the bus.

I tried to follow it till I realised there was no chance of that working.

130 over

 

[toonertoo]

Orion is about production.

Case in point: I covered a route on Monday I hadnt run in 2 years.

It is a heavy commercial route, and the only sendible way to run it is finish bus deliveries, take break, any resis as time permits, pickups, then resis.

Monday Orion had 30 house stops looped, erratically, in with the bus.

I tried to follow it till I realised there was no chance of that working.

130 over

130 is scratch to me.

 

[Richard Harrow]

God I'm so fortunate. I ignore it, run 90% without trying and typically beat it by 1 mile a day.

I can't imagine dealing with this nonsense day after day.

 

[iruhnman630]

I just covered a route for 3 weeks.

After several episodes of horrible dispatches, talked to for not being 85%, then too high over, then not meeting miles, I finally got pissed on Thursday and blew off Orion and ran the route right.

83%, and beat Orion by 3 miles.

Should have heard the att-a-boys.

 

[JackStraw]

Have not mentioned it in our center for weeks. And now, we are delivering our off routes. Today I went 4 towns out of my area to deliver an OR. was 14 miles over. Maybe UPS is bringing back it's last name.

 

[32F driver]

Does it make you feel better when you call them "stupidvisers"?

I call 'em as I see/hear them. Some of the crap that comes out of their mouths is pretty effin' stupid.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I call 'em as I see/hear them. Some of the crap that comes out of their mouths is pretty effin' stupid.

Yeah...like you're a Rhodes Scholar.

 

[wayfair]

It's called operational sabotage

I thought the term used was "maliciously obedient"

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

We were slammed today. My preloader had a terrible morning. I stuck with EDD 100% of the day and only switched to ORION just out of curiosity. Hell, I probably didn't even hit 87% with EDD either. And I don't now how many miles I was over/under.

 

[Mr.Golden]

Orion was designed to increase stops per car and stops per mile. They say it's to reduce miles but it's real purpose is to create 2 or more stops per 1/2 mile. Notice the centers with Orion cut the most routes? That's not a coincidence. It's what they really designed it for.

It is there to increase production overall. If it was only all about miles, you would never see crazy split work or such.

Orion is ALL about production.

The only why to stop that is to have all the drivers take their break 12-1 or by contract. This will make them have to put more routes out...according to my union stewart

 

[porkwagon]

The only why to stop that is to have all the drivers take their break 12-1 or by contract. This will make them have to put more routes out...according to my union stewart

Steward?

 

[realbrown1]

130 is scratch to me.

130 over means I kicked butt.

 

[32F driver]

Yeah...like you're a Rhodes Scholar.

I would try to explain it to you, but I'd be wasting my time. You wouldn't understand.